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Originally posted by Yoepus Iraq required assistance during the Iran-Iraq war and recieved it from the USA. Or does that not count because Iraqis aren't people? Come on.. remember, where did Iraq get those WMD

I liked your response overall but I have to retort the above section:

How Western greed created Hussein's Iraq (thread)

What a tangled web we weave...

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Originally posted by smokeape Right now nK and Iran are crying out for our help with their nuclear weapons programs. I believe the US can assist them with a few well placed strikes. BTW, we're not treating Iraqis like American Indians. We are, in fact, trying to let them govern themselves as a democratic society instead of suffering under dictatorial rule. Don't believe we did that with the Indians and don't believe we're trying to claim any of Iraq as sovereign territory either, so your premise is blatantly flawed from the onset. What we did in the United States with the Indians 150-200 years ago is what advanced civilizations had done as well in Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia, and South America in the past as well. And last time I checked, Europeans captured and imprisoned African natives that were brought to America for resale as slaves. [[[smoke]]]

That's a great post.

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Originally posted by George Smiley Do you know what would happen if America attacked North Korea?

Exactly what they've always wanted to happen. There seems to be a huge naivety that no one seems to notice.

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Originally posted by George Smiley Anyways, here's my two penneth (not two cents worth! bloody Americans should mind their own God damn business forcing their culture and silly sayings on the civilised world!!)

Opinion:
By your previous sentence you don't seem to have an original opinion. Just one that was manufactured for you.

Fact:
Iraq and the United States were once colonies of the United Kingdom, but you already knew that didn't you.

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Originally posted by Yoepus Right You as a Brit have the least amount of right to critize food! Would you like some bland to go with your meal?

Good one. Is their food as tasty as wet cardboard?

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Originally posted by George Smiley Imperialism means controlling another country (or set of people) for your own gain...America is quite the imperial power

Again, America (The United States in this definition) was once a colony of the United Kingdom. What makes anyone think that it never was is beyond anyone's guess.

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Originally posted by neiil_yates and dont tell me its all Bush's fault because if any other president would of been in this spot, they would do the same thing.

You are right. I would add that even Kerry would have been the puppet as well.

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Exactly what they've always wanted to happen. There seems to be a huge naivety that no one seems to notice.

What does that mean?

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Opinion: By your previous sentence you don't seem to have an original opinion. Just one that was manufactured for you. Fact: Iraq and the United States were once colonies of the United Kingdom, but you already knew that didn't you.

What difference does it make if Iraq and US were British colonies?

And what do you mean I dont have an original opinion?

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Again, America (The United States in this definition) was once a colony of the United Kingdom. What makes anyone think that it never was is beyond anyone's guess.

Now I really think you are starting to lose the plot!!!

When did I say the US was not a colony?!

please can you expand on the bits ive quoted cos you lost me...

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Originally posted by George Smiley What does that mean?

Naive as in simple.

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What difference does it make if Iraq and US were British colonies?

I guess you missed my use of the word once.

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And what do you mean I dont have an original opinion?

Your anti-american sentiment, was it born with you or did you just find it in an alley?

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Now I really think you are starting to lose the plot!!! When did I say the US was not a colony?! please can you expand on the bits ive quoted cos you lost me...

You can lead a horse to water...

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Originally posted by George Smiley Do you know what would happen if America attacked North Korea?

Well for one, the nK dictatorship would cease to exist along with about a third to half of their armed forces if they really want to resist and die for nothing. Aside from crude nuclear weapons, their army is truly third rate. Haven't progressed too much from the human wave tactics of the 50's. On the other hand, we've progressed significantly since the 50's in battlefield reconnaisance and intelligence and can virtually slaughter the waves when they mass anywhere and before they can impede our lines of attack/defense. In fact, any attack by nK on the south will only ensure their complete destruction as a country as we know it. Why do you think the south urges them on? The sK military can basically thwart any nK invasion without us. They want us on board to militarily defeat nK as a country so they can reunite the peninsula if the time comes and to stop the UN and China from intervening.


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Riiiiight...I see I am gonna have to fill the gaps in myself?

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Naive as in simple.

Do you mean my assesment of what would happen if the US attacked N Korea is naive?

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I guess you missed my use of the word once.

You said "FACT: Iraq and the United States were once colonies of the United Kingdom, but you already knew that didn't you" and what I want to know is what does that have to do with anything?

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Your anti-american sentiment, was it born with you or did you just find it in an alley?

Ah, so unless I come out all supporting US policies I dont have an "original opinion"? Why should I support what America is doing when I do not think that is right? Do you have any original opinions? Cos from where I'm standing it seems your opinions are formed in the White House spin machine...

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You can lead a horse to water...

Are you just typing the first words that come into your head?! You said why people think the US wasn't a colony is beyond anyone's guess. Now I asked you where I said that (or where I implied it) and as I assume that has something to do with me labelling the US as an imperial power - I ask what difference does it make if the US was once a colony or not? It's an imperial power by definition...

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Originally posted by smokeape Well for one, the nK dictatorship would cease to exist along with about a third to half of their armed forces if they really want to resist and die for nothing. Aside from crude nuclear weapons, their army is truly third rate. Haven't progressed too much from the human wave tactics of the 50's. On the other hand, we've progressed significantly since the 50's in battlefield reconnaisance and intelligence and can virtually slaughter the waves when they mass anywhere and before they can impede our lines of attack/defense. In fact, any attack by nK on the south will only ensure their complete destruction as a country as we know it. Why do you think the south urges them on? The sK military can basically thwart any nK invasion without us. They want us on board to militarily defeat nK as a country so they can reunite the peninsula if the time comes and to stop the UN and China from intervening. [[[smoke]]]

Actually North Korea has an extremely powerful army, so what you say above is nonsense...

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Naive as in simple.

Irony is such a beeeeutiful thing.

They have the MiG-15 also known as the............... FAGOT!

More boats of people come to America then anywhere else filled with people wanting a better life...and we provide it to them....

Bash America all you want...but it IS the land where you can become your dreams...

How many boats of people come into your countries?

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Originally posted by tiesto14 More boats of people come to America then anywhere else filled with people wanting a better life...and we provide it to them.... Bash America all you want...but it IS the land where you can become your dreams... How many boats of people come into your countries?

I need to sleep but that is an utterly quashable statement.

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Originally posted by George Smiley Do you mean my assesment of what would happen if the US attacked N Korea is naive?

You would be naive into thinking that any aggression against North Korea was done on sheer accident.

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You said "FACT: Iraq and the United States were once colonies of the United Kingdom, but you already knew that didn't you" and what I want to know is what does that have to do with anything?

You act as if the US has a mind of it's own.

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Ah, so unless I come out all supporting US policies I dont have an "original opinion"? Why should I support what America is doing when I do not think that is right? Do you have any original opinions? Cos from where I'm standing it seems your opinions are formed in the White House spin machine...

Your anti-american sentiment; was it born with you or did you conjure this up out of your own free will? Me a spin machine, that's funny. I am not a supporter of nor do I condone any foreign or domestic policy from this or any administration. What I can tell you is that you are trying to push your opinion of anti-americanism as if that is going to change anything. I am also alighting you of the burden that the opinion gathered in your mind is something most likely brought on by some external force, most likely by any recent events. This is propogated by your self indulgence of the matter by colorful comments like "bloody Americans should mind their own God damn business". We "bloody Americans" have no control of the government and it's wanton actions that you speak so highly of.

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Are you just typing the first words that come into your head?! You said why people think the US wasn't a colony is beyond anyone's guess. Now I asked you where I said that (or where I implied it) and as I assume that has something to do with me labelling the US as an imperial power - I ask what difference does it make if the US was once a colony or not? It's an imperial power by definition...

The US is not acting alone despite what you think is the contrary. If you think the US is acting alone I have a bridge on the River Thames to sell you.

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