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Originally posted by Purple Mink are usually gassed or violently injected with poison. Many just have their necks broken or are asphixiated. An undercover investigation found that some minks are killed with weed killers, which can cause the animals to convulse for up to 10 minutes before death. On average it takes like 7 Minks to make one Fur coat. The chinchilla industry proudly admits that most chinchillas are killed by neck breaking or electrocution. Many chinchilla farmers hook one metal clamp to the ear, and another to her genitalia to implement the electrocution of this poor creature. The chinchilla is small, and it takes as many as 100 of them to die in order to make a single full-length fur coat. The fur trade calls this "humane". These methods are not 100 percent effective and most animals "wake up" while being skinned.

And the proof is where? also, what procedure is 100% effective, did you read your own article on the mink? in the article a veterinary (can't really remember the detail on the credentials) said that the mink couln't smell the gas.
You're just stating your opinion.. And while that is great, you're stating it as a fact.
If you hate people in the fur industry because of what they do, fine but don't go and say Stop what you're doing because its inhumane, even thought the people like the one in the article in the UK are scrutinized (sp?) allot for what they do and they HAVE changed the way they killed their animals to a more "humane" way of doing it.

IF that to you is still inhumane and you would like for them to not kill the animals at all because of vanity that is again your opinion.

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Originally posted by Cuervo79 And the proof is where? also, what procedure is 100% effective, did you read your own article on the mink? in the article a veterinary (can't really remember the detail on the credentials) said that the mink couln't smell the gas. You're just stating your opinion.. And while that is great, you're stating it as a fact. If you hate people in the fur industry because of what they do, fine but don't go and say Stop what you're doing because its inhumane, even thought the people like the one in the article in the UK are scrutinized (sp?) allot for what they do and they HAVE changed the way they killed their animals to a more "humane" way of doing it.

Yes, those are my opinions and what I have heard from others in Leather and Fur Industry. 10 puppies = 1 human coat I think is enough for me call it inhumane.

You can get proof/info on Fur trade at this website:

http://www.mercyforanimals.org/fur_farms.asp

Only if you beleive them because they are not published by CIA but by an NGO.

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that's not proof, show me a neutral website that posts information.

To end the discussion (sp?) you already stated that it is your opinion. And I said that If its your opinion its great, but don't state it as a fact, just because you think its wrong and it should be stoped.

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Originally posted by Cuervo79 that's not proof, show me a neutral website that posts information. To end the discussion (sp?) you already stated that it is your opinion. And I said that If its your opinion its great, but don't state it as a fact, just because you think its wrong and it should be stoped.

I like you.

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that is one of the most disgusting things i have ever seen

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Originally posted by Pariah Cleric I like you.

I'm honored

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Jesus Christ. I've sat here in silence for a good ten minutes, absolutely disgusted at that video. There's some sick stuff going around on the internt these days, but that took the cake. I honestly cant believe people can bring themselves to do things like that. But like Arbiter said, that stuff goes on all the time and most people are none the wiser. The phrase 'ignorance is bliss' springs to mind.

I feel sick.

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Originally posted by Cuervo79 that's not proof

You see for me its a common knowledge, I have seen Minks waking up alive in between the skinning process and have seen how they resort to cannabilism and neurotic behavior before being killed my neck breaking from shoes.

But I cant provide with any 'proof letter' signed by Kofi Anan that such things are all too common in Fur Industry.

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what are the measures taken to stop this??

I mean seriously this is the 21st century. We've evolved long enough to know this is wrong??

I thought TV, movies, and video games were supposed to have desensitized you people.

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Originally posted by Purple Atleast it helps in keeping the prices high.

you don't know alot about economics, do you? higher prices simply mean higher demand. in other words, because this thing gets more and more popular, more and more people are willing to buy it for a higher price. the market price indicates the demand level. if a supplier sold the item for $100, then because of the demand increase he decided to sell it for $200, and saw that the profits were hurt, he will have absolutely no problem in switching back to $100.

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Originally posted by Radagast I thought TV, movies, and video games were supposed to have desensitized you people.

don't tell me you personally didn't feel anything watching this video

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