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Originally posted by Minhaj same here i think im glad my dad used to beat me, cause i go to all these places and see kids running around like little shits and the perents not giving a fuck. its a shame desi perents these days dont beat there kids.

what the hell is a perent?

i don't think there's anything wrong with giving your kid a little wack on the butt or hands if they are out of control, but only till a certain age...i think maybe 5 or 6 is the cut off age for spanking.


but i'm kind of torn about that too. if you really break it down and think about it...what are you teaching your kids? you're teaching them to use physical force when someone does something wrong...and especially if you spank them out of frustration and anger, you are showing them that you deal with it by getting physical with them.

sure, sending your kid to their room where they have a TV with tivo, playstation, a computer with internet and a T-Mobile sidekick to keep them busy, won't teach them anything either, but if your kid has all of the above, you've already failed as a parent in my opion.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Originally posted by Slylee you're teaching them to use physical force when someone does something wrong...and especially if you spank them out of frustration and anger, you are showing them that you deal with it by getting physical with them. .... you've already failed as a parent in my opion.

I'd say no to your opiOn

Seriously though, smacking shocks a child into realise they've made a serious eroor, or have done something extremely naughty. I reckon nearly all the chavs in this country were never smacked as kids.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Social outcasts are often of the opinion that they must have a drink before being able to loosen up with their inhibitions, thus being able to have a good time. There's a word that sums up this sort of behaviour, and that word is 'reject.'

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ I'd say no to your opiOn Seriously though, smacking shocks a child into realise they've made a serious eroor, or have done something extremely naughty. I reckon nearly all the chavs in this country were never smacked as kids.

first of all, the "failing as a parent in my opinion" wasn't meant for the part that you quoted, so why did you leave the other part out?



and if you take a few classes in early childhood development, you'll realize that spanking is actually not good for them, despite what all the people say about how, "their parents beat the shit outta them and it taught them a lesson and they turned out fine, and bla bla bla"

everyone is different and will be affected differently by physical means of punishment, and it really all depends on how sensitive the child is.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ I'd say no to your opiOn Seriously though, smacking shocks a child into realise they've made a serious eroor, or have done something extremely naughty.

true that. The hard part is to make the child realize that what is being done is for his own good. And the physical punishment has to vary for the type of mischief done.

WHAT THE FUCK DID DADDY DO FOR FUCKS SAKES!!!!!

effective communication is the key..BUT openin up a good can of ass whoopin is a must on certain situations.

i got my ass WHOOPED by my moms when i was little.. i mean really fucked up. not no 'spankin' bs.. straight up wooden hangers and broomstick style.. when i got too big for that, my steppops at the time fucked me up too.. although all those times i deserved to get beat, i was never beat the 'normal' way. most usual style korean parents fuck you up is making you roll up your pants and hit your fucking calves until theyre black & blue...

one day i went to school with like BLACK calves and one of my friend saw it and snitched to the guidance councellor.. she called me out and asked what happened, i told her and she asked me if i wanted to press charges, all serious n shit.. i was like fuck no, you crazy ? LOL

basically, i wouldnt recommend the style of beating i got as a kid, but some dose of spanking is def. necesary.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Jenny, I don't think the thread writer ever stated he was abused by his father, if I'm not mistaken that is an abstract example someone added to the discussion. I fear you suffer some dillusion if you truely believe the actions of others toward you should not influance how you will treat people. We are products of our experiences. All we know is derived from what we have experienced and all we do is based on what we know. Without question how one has been treated by persons in their past not only will but must influence how they conduct their own affairs. How those past experiences influence one's behaviour is largely up to the individual but there is no way one can simply ignore their past. BTW, I agree forgiveness is often healthy but it is by no means necessary and in some cases simply unjustifyable.

That's not what I meant. I just meant that if a person wrongs you, you shouldn't make it a reason to also commit wrongdoings.


And forgivenss isn't about justifying anything.

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Originally posted by Slylee first of all, the "failing as a parent in my opinion" wasn't meant for the part that you quoted, so why did you leave the other part out? and if you take a few classes in early childhood development, you'll realize that spanking is actually not good for them, despite what all the people say about how, "their parents beat the shit outta them and it taught them a lesson and they turned out fine, and bla bla bla"

OK, so here's the whole quote so you don't get arsey. And seeing as you're incapable of having a joke (re: opion') I'll talk serisouly at you.

Childhood development classes mean crap. Until you're actually a parent, all the books and academic literature in the world cannot prepare you. I don't believe that because they tell you in 'Early Childhood Development' classes that smacking isn't good, it's true. You sound like you're speaking from personal experience of parenting, but I somehow doubt you are.

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Originally posted by Slylee ...despite what all the people say about how, "their parents beat the shit outta them and it taught them a lesson and they turned out fine, and bla bla bla"

So you presume to speak for 'everyone' now do you? I suggest you rethink that statement.

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Originally posted by Slylee everyone is different and will be affected differently by physical means of punishment, and it really all depends on how sensitive the child is.

Well you've killed your own argument in the same post there, so there's not much more for me to add. Smacking is good if used in moderation and applied appropriately, with good sound moral reasoning and explanation.

You should come over here and see the scrawny little sh*ts running causing havoc because little Johnny wasn't smacked as a kid 'cos it was 'barbaric'.

Please educate yourself before making generalising sweeping statements.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Social outcasts are often of the opinion that they must have a drink before being able to loosen up with their inhibitions, thus being able to have a good time. There's a word that sums up this sort of behaviour, and that word is 'reject.'

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ OK, so here's the whole quote so you don't get arsey. And seeing as you're incapable of having a joke (re: opion') I'll talk serisouly at you. Childhood development classes mean crap. Until you're actually a parent, all the books and academic literature in the world cannot prepare you. I don't believe that because they tell you in 'Early Childhood Development' classes that smacking isn't good, it's true. You sound like you're speaking from personal experience of parenting, but I somehow doubt you are. So you presume to speak for 'everyone' now do you? I suggest you rethink that statement. Well you've killed your own argument in the same post there, so there's not much more for me to add. Smacking is good if used in moderation and applied appropriately, with good sound moral reasoning and explanation. You should come over here and see the scrawny little sh*ts running causing havoc because little Johnny wasn't smacked as a kid 'cos it was 'barbaric'. Please educate yourself before making generalising sweeping statements.

if you're condoning smacking children and that early childhood development education is a bunch of horseshit, then you are clearly the ignorant one here.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Originally posted by Slylee if you're condoning smacking children and that early childhood development education is a bunch of horseshit, then you are clearly the ignorant one here.

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