Few still seem to have doubts.

For those:

First there isn't much money on a single release anymore (unless you get on Tiesto compilation or something), not for labels and the artists. 2nd. In this case, ripping makes no sense. The melody is not that strong (sorry Paul and Leon!). 3rd. the respected labels. They are often ran by one of the nicest blokes on earth, who would never go with a stealing. Often producers themselves.

My contribution in this thread is now over.

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Originally posted by LeonB if anyone concludes i stole anything im still not satisfied but well, yeah let it be buried forever then.

You wrote this with sight on answer
This situation is something unusual. In music world both cases are widespread enough: and thefts, and groundless claims. I don't know you, you don't know me. And in such case it's impossible to say on 100% that it's a coincidence or not, groundless claims or not. In this episode there is no winners or loosers. It's just a crossing of a large number of circumstances.

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Originally posted by LeonB if anyone concludes i stole anything im still not satisfied but well, yeah let it be buried forever then.

You wrote this with sight on answer
This situation is something unusual. In music world both cases are widespread enough: and thefts, and groundless claims. I don't know you, you don't know me. And in such case it's impossible to say on 100% that it's a coincidence or not, groundless claims or not. In this episode there is no winners or loosers. It's just a crossing of a large number of circumstances.

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yeah let it be buried forever then

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never mind my french..

lets say:

I don't think this is ripped and I know Leon and Cliff good enough to be sure about it.

I totally agree with Galen about the "Leon-bashing" instead of mailing Intuition or the producers.

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Last edited by Freek Geuze on Oct-30-2006 at 17:34

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Originally posted by Freek Geuze hmm, the primary school got its holidays this week I gues? Why don't you all go produce a better track than whining about a horrible melody. For fuck's sake, Mighty Ducks is about jumping around with 3 beers in your hand instead of taking pictures with your mobile-cam from a laser while listening to some random played arpeggio's. Without the climax part, the track wouldn't even stand out. it's very sad.. boehoe :-(

Wow, and you're supposed to be a professional producer? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether a Trance track is 'about jumping around with 3 beers in your hand' or not. I haven't posted my opinion about the track yet, because I haven't heard it yet BUT if I had post my opinion about it I don't need someone to tell me to 'stop whining'.

Your turn or stop whining.

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what does someone make a professional producer since almost everybody is a producer?

I just putted my opinion in this thread and yes, a lot of people, like the TS are whining.

If you want to listen to a real rip-off, check Fictivision vs. C-quence - Symbols and Scooter - Jigga Jigga.

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Originally posted by Freek Geuze what does someone make a professional producer since almost everybody is a producer? I just putted my opinion in this thread and yes, a lot of people, like the TS are whining. If you want to listen to a real rip-off, check Fictivision vs. C-quence - Symbols and Scooter - Jigga Jigga.

- First of all, this post is not really a reaction to my post.

- Secondly, I don't quite understand this post. Do you mean that Scooter's 'Jigga Jigga' is a rip-off from Fictivision vs. C-Quence's 'Symbols' or do you mean that BOTH tracks are rip-offs???

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what is the definition of proffesional producer? and what differs a proffesional producer from a normal producer?
would be interesting to see what some of the producer in this thread thinks where the line is drawn.

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of course not,

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Last edited by Numidia on Oct-30-2006 at 17:04

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Originally posted by RebeL9 what is the definition of proffesional producer? and what differs a proffesional producer from a normal producer? would be interesting to see what some of the producer in this thread thinks where the line is drawn.

Well maybe one more message . Professional producers, they know their way in studio. Usually can make a great track in very short time which is professional quality. Also they often have musical background (piano, guitar lessons, playing in rock band etc.)

It's hard to draw a line though, many demo tracks sounds very professional these days. But if the line is money, professional producers earn their living with music. Others have to make living with something else. Music, it's just hobby for me. So I don't consider myself as a professional for example, couldn't make a living with it either

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Originally posted by Freek Geuze Mighty Ducks is about jumping around with 3 beers in your hand instead of taking pictures with your mobile-cam from a laser while listening to some random played arpeggio's.

Not about the Disney movie?

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