Originally posted by rabbitjoker My interpretation of Jon's concern:
- Jon is saying that sometimes people are using TOTA to self-promote (either themselves or their events) more than what should be considered reasonable.
- We have all seen some (intentional and/or unintentional) self-promotion in threads that really shouldn't have it. After a while this type of activity is bound to cause annoyance. This annoyance is what Jon is bringing to the forefront with this thread.
My $0.02:
- Promoters/talent and TOTAs should NOT bump roll call threads (per Margaret's post). TOTA attendees should post in it once, move along - keep event discussion in the event thread. Bumping roll calls [/b]creates a false sense of support.[/b]
Now I know this isn't an event thread, and I don't want to beat a dead horse..... but aren't the same things happening with your 2HP radio show on a weekly basis? Shouldn't the same 'concerns' apply to non-event related threads as well?
Now I know this isn't an event thread, and I don't want to beat a dead horse..... but aren't the same things happening with your 2HP radio show on a weekly basis? Shouldn't the same 'concerns' apply to non-event related threads as well?
Ah, interesting point. I never looked at it from that angle too. I find the comments in this thread intriguing.
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Nov-17-2006 16:17
shanny
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Originally posted by Jem_hadar
Ah, interesting point. I never looked at it from that angle too. I find the comments in this thread intriguing.
I find the comments in this thread to be bullshit.
Seems like any thread that keeps popping up over and over again may be put into this category.
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Nov-17-2006 16:25
DigDeep
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quote:
Originally posted by shanny
I find the comments in this thread to be bullshit.
Seems like any thread that keeps popping up over and over again may be put into this category.
No not any thread, specifically threads that are to promote, in which the creator of the thread continues to bump in order to gain more interest. This was one of the main points that Jon and R.J. were trying to make, and I'm simply pointing out that the same thing is going on with 2HP regularly.
While I do see 2HP as a great radio show, and many people like it. I'm also pretty sure that he is likely not making a dime off of it. But the same can be said about many events that the TA's (including myself) throw on a regular basis. Offering a place for the community to come, that often has no cover charge, and where no absolutely no profits are made (with the exception of the venue who host the party).
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quote:
Originally posted by shanny
I find the comments in this thread to be bullshit.
Seems like any thread that keeps popping up over and over again may be put into this category.
OK, so many of the comments may be very non-constructive and intense... and harsh, but there are many ideas that are interesting (though I hope like none come to fruition... but find it interesting the way ppl actually think things can be improved themselves, even if i havent really agreed on any of the points.
and i do find jeff's comment interesting, bc i never thought of it in that light, and im wondering what RJs response will be, in agreement or not, and if not, the rationale.
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Nov-17-2006 16:31
shanny
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I see the points of both of you guys, and Jeff I wasn't meaning that comment to be against the posts that you or other promoters make.
I think there is an awful lot of negativity going on in this thread for no reason.
People need to remember how to censor things themselves, they aren't robots who have to open every thread just so they can bitch about it.
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Nov-17-2006 16:36
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quote:
Originally posted by shanny
I think there is an awful lot of negativity going on in this thread for no reason.
People need to remember how to censor things themselves, they aren't robots who have to open every thread just so they can bitch about it.
Hear, hear!
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Nov-17-2006 16:43
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Originally posted by shanny
I see the points of both of you guys, and Jeff I wasn't meaning that comment to be against the posts that you or other promoters make.
I think there is an awful lot of negativity going on in this thread for no reason.
People need to remember how to censor things themselves, they aren't robots who have to open every thread just so they can bitch about it.
Thats what i was referring to.
No offense taken Josh, it was just a response to your 'Seems like any thread that keeps popping up over and over again may be put into this category.'
I agree, plenty of negativity in this thread. And I can also openly say that I don't feel like a thread like this should have (or needed to be) been started in the first place. Of course it will be full of negative comments when someone starts a thread of this nature.
Del does a good job moderating TA, and does not need people to tell him how to run his website. This ultimately is/was the threads purpose whether it was intended to look that way, or not.
With that being said, the thread WAS created, and I'm simply stating that there shouldn't be a double standard of opinions.
I actually havent found this thread to be negative at all. Yes people are bitching, but they are also trying to find solutions to some concerns. In fact, im surprised it didnt get alot messier.
Regardless, I am currently a fence sitter in the situation and I find the discussion pretty interesting.
One thing I know for sure is the "take it with a grain of salt" attitude annoys me. Yes, it is an online forum, and yes some people take things more seriously then others but keeping some credibility on TA would be nice. I too would prefer it if the boards didnt go to shit.
