so, if you create pointless threads outside the cor, those that still makes you a loser?

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You know what the problem is? We need MORE exclusivity around here. MORE flaming of n00bs. MORE jerkiness and harrassment from the cliques.

See, we've constantly got new members signing up, and assimilating themselves into the c0re as if they put in their time like everyone else...when in reality, they didn't.

N00bs haven't been paying their dues, and that's why they're getting away with all this shit.

N00bs need to be scared to post, like the old days. They need to earn their rights to hang out with us. Shit, if we're gonna compare the c0re to a high school cafeteria, we might as well go balls out with this thing, and be proper dicks about it.


It's our fault, we've gone soft. We need to bring asshole back.

I honestly don't think any one is a fool or loser. I don't think Jason does either.

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence I honestly don't think any one is a fool or loser. I don't think Jason does either.

trust me. there are people who do.

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i dont think any of this makes you a loser, i already game my point about this, i was asking to the people that thinks being stupid on a forum makes you a loser. if you dont believe that then the question wasnt for you..

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Originally posted by jennypie It's our fault, we've gone soft. We need to bring asshole back.

*picks up a bat and wears a helmet*

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Originally posted by twilightki : It feels like something you'd listen to at 4 in the morning, or listen to in your car while you're going in a tunnel.

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence I'm just really surprised at you and Peter Pipers for jumping down Jason's throat because neither of you are part of the problem.

i attacked the validity of his 'argument' (and his motive as a part of it) and his modus operandi, it's not personal, and it's completely irrelevant of whether i am a part of the problem or not.

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence Don't you think it's all gotten out of hand?

no, i dont. however i don't 'condone' the overuse of memes, especially when they're not original.

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence Do you really enjoy all of the posts and threads that are meaningless? I can't believe that either of you do.

no, but that's irrelevent to whether i think it's gone out of hand.

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence I've heard a few of you say all of this garbage is the result of growing membership.

it occurs often enough over various internet communities to be generalized.

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence It seems to me as though we had more people posting in the COR back in the days. So I don't think that's the problem.

factually incorrect, you can compare how many threads and/or posts there were each year yourself to see that.

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Originally posted by jennypie You know what the problem is? We need MORE exclusivity around here. MORE flaming of n00bs. MORE jerkiness and harrassment from the cliques. See, we've constantly got new members signing up, and assimilating themselves into the c0re as if they put in their time like everyone else...when in reality, they didn't. N00bs haven't been paying their dues, and that's why they're getting away with all this shit. N00bs need to be scared to post, like the old days. They need to earn their rights to hang out with us. Shit, if we're gonna compare the c0re to a high school cafeteria, we might as well go balls out with this thing, and be proper dicks about it. It's our fault, we've gone soft. We need to bring asshole back.

the internet at large has grown too mature for that. 'everyone's' too desensitized by now.

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence A lot of what you post is true and correct. But why can't I speak out? Why can't Jason or Nik or Arbiter express their opinions? If no one wants to change, they won't change. Isn't it okay to say, "hey, you guys are posting too much garbage" and maybe they'll agree and decide to tone it down a bit?

it's just as ok as it is to express a counter opinion.

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Originally posted by Omega_M *picks up a bat and wears a helmet*

brass knuckles kids....ALL WRONGS RIGHTED!

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence I honestly don't think any one is a fool or loser. I don't think Jason does either.

Jason's first post itself is likely to invite more scorn than active discussion.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller what the hell is wrong with some of you people? you guys are really pretty shit the last couple months...why don't you guys actually post something funny for a change instead of creating a bunch of bullshit that is pointless.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN losers.

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence Don't you think it's all gotten out of hand? Do you really enjoy all of the posts and threads that are meaningless? I can't believe that either of you do.

Yes, I do. My only point is that I think Jason has become part of the problem as opposed to part of the solution. Threads like these pop up every so often with someone claiming c0r has gotten "out of hand" or has reached an all time high level of "shittiness," but never actually discuss the specific things that are bothering them.

Allow me to elucidate (pun intended ) on an actual situation that has occurred in c0r regarding the quality of posts/moderator action that has drawn my personal ire, though I understand comletely why it's happened, and realize that it's my problem, and not that of c0r as a whole.

I used to come here for two reasons: 1. To break up the monotony of the week with some humor. 2. To have a good laugh and be able to enjoy some time (albeit internet time) with Myra, as we don't get to see each other 5 days a week.

We used to be able to waste entire days flirting on here, irritating all of you to the point of tears with our incessant internet canoodling. Furthermore, we used to be able to have a good laugh about TA, and things in c0r. Then, she became a moderator, and a lot changed.

Gone were the majority of fleeting and foolish but funny posts we used to make with each other, and in comes Myra as a moderator. It was clear almost immediately that her persona on the forums had changed, and honestly, who wouldn't have expected it? We have come to expect a certain level of action/personality from our moderators that requires them to become somewhat removed from the main lifeforce of c0r, so it was certain that Myra would also have to move to "that level" in order to moderate effectively

Here's the problem; the lot of you (And believe me when I say on occasion that I am without doubt a part of "the lot of you") end up pissing her off so frequently it seems very apparent that c0r is rarely any fun for her anymore. The amount of bullshit she has to moderate is staggering, and the fact of the matter is that for the most part, she does it on her own. When things slide to the level they have on here, how can a single moderator be expected to keep a handle on it all? It's absolutely absurd, but she deals with it well - And you all are very lucky for it. She's the best thing that's happened to this forum in a long time, but she can't do it all on her own.

So here's the conflict - subjectively, the dynamic of c0r has changed for me, and some of what I really, really valued in it is now gone. Is it my fault? No. Is it Myra's fault? No. Is it c0r's fault? A resounding no. At the end of the day, though, I'm the only one who can do anything about it for myself.

Things change, this forum has gotten bigger, and just because a lot of newer members (And some OLD members) sense of humor doesn't jive with me isn't going to change the way things work around here. I've made suggestions, but realize they most often times fall on deaf ears, and at the end of the day this isn't my website. It's up to the moderators of this forum and the owner of TA to do something if they want to illicit real change, otherwise, with a forum this large I'm afraid that we're all going to have to deal with the kind of rubbish that apparently a lot of us are sick of.

So if I'm the one who's sick of the way things have gone, then I'm the one who needs to step away. And perhaps I will - But in the end, it's my decision to do something, and not my expectation that c0r will get better solely by complaints backed up by a completely lack of objectivity or evidence.

In the end, I like Jason, always have and always will. But as a moderator (which he still is, even if he wants to be gone), if he has a problem with the way things are going here, he needs to spearhead real change - And it's been proven time and time again that threads like these get no where. I hope any and all of this made sense.

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Last edited by RJT on Dec-11-2006 at 17:39