Crisis is how we grow - it's how we survive! Without crisis, the world would secede into a total entropic state. Understandably, many would say that it is cold and cruel to recognize that people must die so that others may live - but without the threat of death, what reason do we have to live at all?

America and much of the western world has grown stagnant -complacent and comfortable in its proliferation as the heralds of trade and commerce and globalisation and all of these other things that we praise and welcome that have evidently lead to convenience and availability and other things we praise and welcome that have lead to obesity and stagnation and laziness and excess sugars and ignorance and instant gratification and the loss of self in a world that has extricated society from the subtle workings of the natural world to create a synthetic dreamworld where we can live without reprisal or consequence while the world outside of ours suffers and the denizens within are corrupted by promises of a false sense of human perfection.

*deep breath*

But really, obesity is an "epidemic" now because much of the world does not have to live as nomads or live day-to-day without knowing whether or not they will eat today or tomorrow. It's a good thing, right? I mean, having enough food...it's good. It's better than starving to death...right? We have traded survival and our natural sense of health for convenience and solipsismal lifestyles. Last longer, live better? That's what health promises us - but can it promise that we won't die in a car accident at 24? Can it promise we won't fall down a flight of stairs and break our necks and go into a coma for 12 years before we finally pass on?

I think that people's issues with "fat people" are just projections of their own insecurities, for the most part. I also think that people's issues with gaining weight are the projections of a world where we don't have to fight to survive. But as mentioned, life finds a way to equalize things. Maybe the solution is to make the ground so toxic and unlivable, our food productivity plummets and mass starvation kills us off so that we once again have to be fit and strong to survive in a world where only the fittest and luckiest are allowed to live? Ridiculous as this sounds, it might just be the new "trend".

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personally i've become very cynical about the united states...i think something a lot of people feel, but it's hard to remain positive about a society that takes no pride in itself.

Yeah, same here. The only "pride" left is the mindless jingoism that erupts when flags are trotted out and the politicians start talking about war and "staying the course."

The solution is to stop eating shit and exercise now and then, barring throwing your computer and TV and stereo in the bin.

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personally i've become very cynical about the united states...i think something a lot of people feel, but it's hard to remain positive about a society that takes no pride in itself.

I'm proud of my homeland, even if most people think I'm a freak there and getting along is difficult.

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Originally posted by Masonious you win again dude - and nice move shoving the whole i figured out how to order pizza thing in my face. i tried that 4 and a half months ago and woke up with a Taiwanese transvestite but to Ygrene it's just, "anoother day in the life, noooo biggieee".

Yeah, but that stuff requires effort.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Yeah, but that stuff requires effort.

Not that much, even when I worked 40-45 hours a week I got in 20 minutes of exercise every morning and ate healthy (eating healthy is usually cheaper anyway). If I don't I feel like shit otherwise and get sick a lot.

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Originally posted by Masonious you win again dude - and nice move shoving the whole i figured out how to order pizza thing in my face. i tried that 4 and a half months ago and woke up with a Taiwanese transvestite but to Ygrene it's just, "anoother day in the life, noooo biggieee".

I know! Obese Americans can sue fast food chains. Surely that will solve all of their problems.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I know! Obese Americans can sue fast food chains. Surely that will solve all of their problems.

Irresponsibility is usually derived from insecurity and leads to further itself to others affected by the one from which it manifests.

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Originally posted by Masonious you win again dude - and nice move shoving the whole i figured out how to order pizza thing in my face. i tried that 4 and a half months ago and woke up with a Taiwanese transvestite but to Ygrene it's just, "anoother day in the life, noooo biggieee".

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Originally posted by Lilith It's up there with the British diet of drinking stupid amounts of lager, taking E or Meth, dancing like a loon every weekend and finishing it off with a dodgy kebab or curry from some street vender you 'think' on the way home. Only difference is, weather is better in Egypt.

Meth we're not in Alabama you know? Most popular drugs would be Cocaine and E.

Isn't the Australian diet. Drinking lager then sniffing glue dancing to some barn dance style Aussie Country Western music, topped off by a BBQ in the morning. 'Shane where did I park the ute mate!'

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Oh, we're just getting started when it comes to obesity. The "internet generation" really has yet to reach the age where the risk of obesity is highest. By the time they do, their children will be growing up with an even more sedentary lifestyle. And that, my friends, is when the proverbial shit will really hit the fan.

Yeah, I was kinda hoping for worldwide cataclysm before then.

Ya know, just to see what it'd be like.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Yeah, I was kinda hoping for worldwide cataclysm before then. Ya know, just to see what it'd be like.

Well that's pretty improbable but hey you could always get lucky.

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Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan Isn't the Australian diet. etc etc blah blah

Depends on the crowd really.
Obesity here is catching up to the rest of the world though, unlike the US and UK they have been pushing the diet and exercise education a lot more in the media. Which will minimise the damage people do too themselves to some extent.

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Yeah, I was kinda hoping for worldwide cataclysm before then.

In its own way, these things have a way of fixing themselves over time.
It's called premature death.