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Originally posted by RobotHouse Did I not mention appliances? Oh, and the bulbs last a lot longer too.

Did you even read what I just wrote? It doesn't matter what shit you buy, it matters how you use it.

Christ.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Did you even read what I just wrote? It doesn't matter what shit you buy, it matters how you use it. Christ.

So you're agreeing with what I said in the first place? Good.

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Originally posted by RobotHouse So you're agreeing with what I said in the first place? Good.

No, actually, I haven't agreed with a word you said so far. I stated in no uncertain terms that CFs and energy-saving appliances are a useless political stunt that waste everybody's time and money except for the companies that produce them.

It seems that some people refuse to be educated. If you're not even going to read what I wrote, and choose to respond with incoherent one-line non-sequiturs instead, then I guess I'm done with you. Hopefully a few less stubborn people will read it and understand.

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Originally posted by RobotHouse Did I not mention appliances? Oh, and not only do the bulbs last longer they also give off more light and less heat.

The compact fluorescent bulbs (CFB) contain mercury, which is very toxic, and terrible for the environment. You cannot just throw them away like regular bulbs. They have to be properly disposed of at a handling facility. When was the last time you took your burnt out CFB to your municipal dump, and asked how to dispose of it?

The mercury going into our land fills, due to improperly disposed CFB's, is of more concern to me, than the pollution that incandescent bulbs produce.

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Originally posted by Orko The compact fluorescent bulbs (CFB) contain mercury, which is very toxic, and terrible for the environment. You cannot just throw them away like regular bulbs. They have to be properly disposed of at a handling facility. When was the last time you took your burnt out CFB to your municipal dump, and asked how to dispose of it? The mercury going into our land fills, due to improperly disposed CFB's, is of more concern to me, than the pollution that incandescent bulbs produce.

You just return them to the store.

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Originally posted by DigiNut No, actually, I haven't agreed with a word you said so far. I stated in no uncertain terms that CFs and energy-saving appliances are a useless political stunt that waste everybody's time and money except for the companies that produce them. It seems that some people refuse to be educated. If you're not even going to read what I wrote, and choose to respond with incoherent one-line non-sequiturs instead, then I guess I'm done with you. Hopefully a few less stubborn people will read it and understand.

I wouldn't want you to waste any more time googling facts between posts for arguments sake.

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Originally posted by Spike so lets say then al gore is wrong and IS just trying to scare us and is in the buiseness of making money for himself, does that mean we just go buckwild and pump as much co2 into the air and waste as much energy as we can?

just bc i dont believe 'global warming' is a man made phenomenon, doesnt mean i think we should continue to be wasteful and not be concerned about the earth how how much pollution and waste we create.

i absolutely support reducing waste and being gentle on the environment. i just dont believe we're the cause of 'global warming'

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Originally posted by DigiNut And Jamie, Al Gore invented the internet so he's obviously the most reliable source.

Guys, my point wasn't about comparing Y2K to global warming.
It's about PROPAGANDA or BRAIN WASHING.
I lived in USSR before 1985, almost end up being communist.
Right now N.America is being manupilated by big corps same way as russians were 25 years ago.

P.S. Since government is letting people to write off gas as expense,
sales of SUV/trucks will continue to climb. Stop doing that.

P.P.S. I'm car-less for last 2 years, using TTC or bike whenever possible. Changed my light bulbs too 4 years ago.

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar just bc i dont believe 'global warming' is a man made phenomenon, doesnt mean i think we should continue to be wasteful and not be concerned about the earth how how much pollution and waste we create. i absolutely support reducing waste and being gentle on the environment. i just dont believe we're the cause of 'global warming'

fair enough. thats was the point i was trying to make. regardless of whether global warming is caused by humans us or not i think it is our duty to be a little responsible for our actions.

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Originally posted by Spike fair enough. thats was the point i was trying to make. regardless of whether global warming is caused by humans us or not i think it is our duty to be a little responsible for our actions.

agree!


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Originally posted by exraver Guys, my point wasn't about comparing Y2K to global warming. It's about PROPAGANDA or BRAIN WASHING. I lived in USSR before 1985, almost end up being communist. Right now N.America is being manupilated by big corps same way as russians were 25 years ago. P.S. Since government is letting people to write off gas as expense, sales of SUV/trucks will continue to climb. Stop doing that. P.P.S. I'm car-less for last 2 years, using TTC or bike whenever possible. Changed my light bulbs too 4 years ago.

ah...do you actually know the state of the economy or even the specific sectors you are refering to? SUV/truck sales have been on a steady decline for the last few years. They may rise for the odd month, but overall the sales are down. It had nothing to do with people writting off their gas expense, but everything to do with our oil prices being artificially low. People wasted gas because it really was cheap, but now that the prices have risen, people are thinking twice.

IMO people need to write off gas as an expense. Lots of people drive around for work, and they have no choice but to do so. You may enjoy the TTC, but having lived in Vaughan, and Mississauga, transit sucks. Try living in Mississauga, being an at home care nurse, and taking the bus to your patient's houses. Won't work.

I have never had a car, and bike/bus/walk everywhere, and always have. But, I do recognize that is not practicle for some people, hell for a lot of people to do that to get to work. Our transit needs to improve before we can force people out of their cars.

Last edited by Orko on Aug-14-2007 at 19:05