hardcore trancer, feel free to read the article all the way through (6 pages). Notice that Iran isn't painted in a one-dimensional light. The article talks about how many Iraqis who are now in power once sought refuge in Iran, or that over a million Iranians travelled on pilgrimages to Iraq in the past year.
Even if you talk to US army vets and ask them about the people of Iran many will tell you that Iran is a country with a large educated and cultural base, and they'd always hoped these people would find a way to gain control of Iran. I think thats what the US is hoping it can do. The big question is whether this is possible at the present time.
You'll also notice in the article that a lot of former CIA people have different views of Iran and its government.
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Oct-01-2007 07:20
CHRles
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Location: Nashville
You'll also notice that Israel's biggest problem with Iran obtaining nuclear power isn't so much Iran, but that it will ultimately make its way to Hezbollah or Hamas. You can be sure that neither Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, nor Jordan or Lebanon wants to see these groups obtaining such technology.
Arab leaders have been pretty alarmists as of late as far as getting things done with regards to peace between Israel and the palestinians. They're very worried about the shape the entire Middle East will be in if Iran gets too involved in regional politics.
Oct-01-2007 07:41
Cyrus King
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Location: Toronto
quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
...just what I thought; you don't know...
Ill make it simple for you to understand.
HOW is America .. as Qsecho said, "protecting" the oil??
You war apologists cant stand the truth
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Oct-01-2007 17:30
Krypton
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Location: Texas
quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
by your OWN standard...you're saying Clinton operated under the law?
ok, by your own standard Clinton still sent 80 cruise missles into the Sudan and Afghanistan independent of the UN.
Clinton repeatedly waged war in Iraq independent of the UN.
Clinton used NATO and bombed Yugoslavia almost back to the frikken stone age.
and don't forget H.R. 4655
hypocracy defined...it's Krypton ladies and gentleman.
your'e one of the most knowledge challenged guys here.
do yourself a favor and never mention Clinton again.
CLinton?
Clinton by far never did anything as stupid as Bush, and that's that..
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Oct-01-2007 22:39
CHRles
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Location: Nashville
quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
CLinton?
Clinton by far never did anything as stupid as Bush, and that's that..
I love Bill Clinton and all, but, ummm, what??
Oct-01-2007 22:48
Krypton
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Location: Texas
quote:
Originally posted by CHRles
I love Bill Clinton and all, but, ummm, what??
What didn't you understand?
Are you going to tell me a personal affair is worse than an illegal war?
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Oct-01-2007 22:50
Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas
quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
CLinton?
Clinton by far never did anything as stupid as Bush, and that's that..
sure but, again, your tenuous grasp of recent history has failed to support your own ideology.
Oct-02-2007 02:52
Krypton
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Location: Texas
quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
sure but, again, your tenuous grasp of recent history has failed to support your own ideology.
Explain. You're ideology is as an occupier.
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Oct-02-2007 03:08
Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas
quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Explain. You're ideology is as an occupier.
explain how you are completely wrong on many levels refering to Clinton?
or why we occupy Iraq?
Oct-02-2007 03:11
DJ Shibby
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Of Earthzen and the Therethen
quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
explain how you are completely wrong on many levels refering to Clinton?
or why we occupy Iraq?
I imagine it is because our government is full of psychopathic liars.
Oct-02-2007 03:13
Krypton
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas
quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
explain how you are completely wrong on many levels refering to Clinton?
or why we occupy Iraq?
How is Clinton worse than Bush would be my question.
Also explain the legality of occupation of sovereign foreign countries.
You defend Saudi Arabia, but get angry when I point out the hypocrisy of sanctioning Cuba. That's what we were talking about two pages ago. I love how we always move from the topic at hand to completely different subjects unrelated to what we were debating in the first place. You and charles are EXPERTS at that..