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DaveT
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: San Francisco

I think "disqualifying" DJs might be a tad brash. I mean, there are certainly instances where the DJ is probably involved, but hurting them when there's a good chance they weren't involved but their management had something to do with it.

I don't think some of these DJs would dare to a chance of being caught cheating like this knowing how much it could tarnish their image.

AS people have said, DJMag is a (stupid) marketing tool for DJs. It certainly impacts your booking fee.

What I could have done is 1) In cases where there are several votes from the same IP, try to learn if that IP is a corporpation or ISP that could possibly use NATing. Some ISPs like AOL use NATing because the world is getting short on IP addresses. So THOUSANDS of people will show up online under the same IP address. In these cases, I'd allow two of the votes to count. In other cases, just make it so only one of the IP address count.

Or just make it all easy and make it only one vote per IP address.

Their ranking will be impact greatly right there, but they could still end up being ranked somewhere that more accurately reflects where they would be without any cheating having been involved.

From there, put them on probation for like five years and if it happens again, then ban them from that year and any future DJ polls.

In the end if CL's and DJ Dan's old marketing manager certainly caused his fiasco on his own, I hope he is raped of all his assets and money. This type of thing could really tarnish their image when it comes to people who don't know the whole story or don't believe they really didn't have anything to do with it themselves. It really sucks for CL more than Dan in the end as CL is certainly one of the best there is.

Dave

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trancedanne
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DJ Dan who? Even DJ Dean is bigger then this guy

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CHRles
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Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Nashville

In defense of Christopher Lawrence, the man's ranking on DJ Mag was quite high even prior to last year. He also usually ranks pretty high on other polls, especially US-based ones.
He's a veteran of the scene, and while he may not have the same kind of pull as Trance DJs from Holland or the UK, I'd venture to say he's been one of the more popular DJs on the planet for quite some time now.
Best thing about Lawrence is that his Trance sets are more unique and underground leaning then a lot of other DJs that are billed as Trance DJs. The problem is that this may not necessarily translate into a high position on DJ Mag. Best reference would be John 00 Fleming.

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limin_li
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Registered: May 2002
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hey Charles, when is the next dance station going under??? hehehe

But in a serious note, DJs shouldn't cheat. Bottom Line.


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Dojomaster26
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Registered: Feb 2004
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This is really going to hurt some reputations...

DJ Dan and CL are good enough DJs that they didn't have to use scripts to place well on the charts. It annoys me that some marketing teams are getting greedy for money with these moves.

TA: Stop pretending like you don't know who DJ Dan is. He is one of the biggest House DJs in the US and its a real shame that his management/whoever had to do this for some votes on a popularity contest.


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Registered: Nov 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by CHRles
In defense of Christopher Lawrence, the man's ranking on DJ Mag was quite high even prior to last year. He also usually ranks pretty high on other polls, especially US-based ones.
He's a veteran of the scene, and while he may not have the same kind of pull as Trance DJs from Holland or the UK, I'd venture to say he's been one of the more popular DJs on the planet for quite some time now.
Best thing about Lawrence is that his Trance sets are more unique and underground leaning then a lot of other DJs that are billed as Trance DJs. The problem is that this may not necessarily translate into a high position on DJ Mag. Best reference would be John 00 Fleming.


yep i think he ranked 10th on the list in 2005. and he have been known as "americas nr 1 trance dj" for several years now.


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the_gamemaster
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quote:
Originally posted by Dojomaster26

TA: Stop pretending like you don't know who DJ Dan is.


Bit of a lame DJ name don't you think though?

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Weird... You get over 1200 results and I can't get more than 100.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dojomaster26
TA: Stop pretending like you don't know who DJ Dan is. He is one of the biggest House DJs in the US and its a real shame that his management/whoever had to do this for some votes on a popularity contest.


Can't help it, but I never heard of the guy before he made such an 'impresive' rise last year

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THE_Chris
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Registered: Apr 2002
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Originally posted by DaveT

Or just make it all easy and make it only one vote per IP address.


Why they havent done that from day 1 I'll never know. Allowing multiple votes per IP is just asking for trouble and in my opinion is utterly stupid.


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Registered: Jul 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by the_gamemaster
So does this mean we can get DJ's we don't like disqualified by voting for them lots of times?

Gotta remember to try this next year with AvB to see if the results are the same *whistles*


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