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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Nope, because each of those quotes address "could," not "would." Even omni-surveillance won't necessarily be used for a bad purpose. Don't erode important distinctions.

Oh please, you implied it heavily....same thing.

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Originally posted by donnybrasco Do you believe people should have the right to own Assault Rifles? How do you feel about gun registration (which we have to excess in California)? Do you believe in "waiting periods" before purchasing? How about the right to carry?

jive is hardly some rote-learned liberal media child

and no, i dont believe in general gun ownership. and neither did the constitution framers.

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Originally posted by donnybrasco Do you believe people should have the right to own Assault Rifles?

Yep.

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How do you feel about gun registration (which we have to excess in California)?

Maybe for certain high-powered weapons, but otherwise, no.

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Do you believe in "waiting periods" before purchasing?

However long it takes to do a background check, but no more.

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How about the right to carry?

Support.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Yep. Maybe for certain high-powered weapons, but otherwise, no. However long it takes to do a background check, but no more. Support.

fuck. never thought you'd be some gun-toting redneck!

yeah, we shouldnt have gun registration. what fucking planet are you on?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Firstly, because outside dictatorial state-run media, I have never seen a more one-sided program than fox news. Ever. And as you can see in a recent thread in the PDD by lazFX, fox are now paying hard for their joke of a news outlet. If stations like CNN DO have an agenda, they're far far more cunning about it than fox ever was. If you think CNN is as liberal as fix is conservative, then you're just flat-out wrong.

Oh, if you say I'm wrong, then I must be wrong!!

Please. The Op-Eds, the stories these outlets choose to run, etc...they all lean to the left.

You don't believe this because YOU lean to the left, face it!

I know Fox News is bias, but I don't give a crap, because I see them as not only aligned closer to my viewpoints, but I see them as an alternative viewpoint to the mainstream media which we've BADLY needed in this country for decades!

Your assertions that the media which supports your POV is somehow "accurate and fair" and the one that supports mine is "flat-out wrong!" is really retarded.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN jive is hardly some rote-learned liberal media child and no, i dont believe in general gun ownership. and neither did the constitution framers.

Got guns, and a lot of them at the house, to include assault rifles. Kids shoot 'em all the time. I buy lots of ammo. Good practice. They go to war with them, so make sure I have identical military spec weapons like they use for show time.



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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN fuck. never thought you'd be some gun-toting redneck!

I don't own a gun, I've never hunted, and I don't have any friends who own guns or hunt. Nice try, though.

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yeah, we shouldnt have gun registration. what fucking planet are you on?

I don't think that gun registration is a very effective way to stop crime.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Maybe for certain high-powered weapons, but otherwise, no.

Aren't you afraid that registration will lead to confiscation (not now, but "in the future")?

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Originally posted by donnybrasco Aren't you afraid that registration will lead to confiscation (not now, but "in the future")?

Not really, since there is a strong cultural undercurrent in the U.S. that would oppose confiscation. And I already said that I don't care whether most types of weapons are registered.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN fuck. never thought you'd be some gun-toting redneck! yeah, we shouldnt have gun registration. what fucking planet are you on?

lol...raisin, you live in a totally different culture and in a different country. Why is that foreigners gripe about the U.S. "telling everyone else what to do" throughout the world, yet they believe we're a bunch of ass-backward "rednecks" because we have a very important freedom and right guaranteed to us by our Constitution, one which THEY now feel compelled to tell us we should abolish within our own country?

The hypocrisy is vexing.

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Originally posted by donnybrasco Oh, if you say I'm wrong, then I must be wrong!!

glad we agree.

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Originally posted by donnybrasco Please. The Op-Eds, the stories these outlets choose to run, etc...they all lean to the left.

only "left" according to americans. what you consider the "left" is really more centre-centre-right (think of north-north-east).

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Originally posted by donnybrasco You don't believe this because YOU lean to the left, face it!

nah, you think im left coz youre so far right. im much more centrist.

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Originally posted by donnybrasco Your assertions that the media which supports your POV is somehow "accurate and fair" and the one that supports mine is "flat-out wrong!" is really retarded.

that's the thing. i dont see the media as representing my ideas one iota. i see most media as fairly conservative, but i am always ready to acknowledge bias when i see it (good or bad). but the idea that there is a major news stable in the US that is "left" is a complete joke, in the land of the free and home of the capitalist.

and yes, if you think CNN is as biased as fox then you ARE flat out wrong.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I don't think that gun registration is a very effective way to stop crime.

never said it was. but it is a useful tool in keeping an eye on who has what. not in the US now, youre fvcked. but in countries that havent lost the war on guns, its still useful.

and its lucky you all have your assault rifles! rabbits must be growing pretty big in texas.

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Originally posted by donnybrasco lol...raisin, you live in a totally different culture and in a different country. Why is that foreigners gripe about the U.S. "telling everyone else what to do" throughout the world, yet they believe we're a bunch of ass-backward "rednecks" because we have a very important freedom and right guaranteed to us by our Constitution, one which THEY now feel compelled to tell us we should abolish within our own country? The hypocrisy is vexing.

"important" ? don't make me fucking laugh.

and im an internationalist. i'll tell anyone what to do as i see fit. don't tell me guns have done anything in your country but bring untold death and destruction.

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