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Originally posted by Kinezi Here comes the war! Be Prepared Iran! http://www.ptinews.com/pti%5Cptisit...4A?OpenDocument

1. Article full of grammatical errors or typos.
2. Completely inaccurate.

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I ve said this before and I ll say it again,if Isreal attacks Iran they will suffer greatly for a long time.Yes I know Isreal has the greatest military etc etc but by attacking Iran they are really gonna fuck themselves up big time.Their almighty military power cant protect them all the time.

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Originally posted by Krypton 1. Article full of grammatical errors or typos. 2. Completely inaccurate.

Goggle 'Amber Light to Israel' and you will find same article posted on some Israeli news paper. Maybe that one has more accurate grammer according to English (US) Format.

Here:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?i...ctionid=3510203


And for inaccuracy of the information stated, what you think is inaccurate? I mean you are closer to Bush Administration?

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Originally posted by Krypton My theory: For the authoritarian conservatives to remain in power, they need to instill a sense of danger and fear in the people. Going to war with Iran would do such a thing. By giving Islamists a further recruitment boost, the hardliners can then point and say, "You need us because we are the only ones who can protect you." It is my opinion that the far-right wingers of this government WANT a war, not to protect America, but so they can stay in power.

It's not really a theory. It's the same reason the right-wingers want a war in this country - after invading Iraq, the US rallied around the GOP.

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Originally posted by Kinezi Goggle 'Amber Light to Israel' and you will find same article posted on some Israeli news paper. Maybe that one has more accurate grammer according to English (US) Format. Here: http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?i...ctionid=3510203 And per iaccuracy of the information stated, what you think is inaccurate? I mean you are closer to Bush Administration?

I'm not seeing it in any of the major news outlets. I'm not saying you are lying, or a manipulator. I'm just saying, I don't trust that article. I see it as just a rumor.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer I ve said this before and I ll say it again,if Isreal attacks Iran they will suffer greatly for a long time.Yes I know Isreal has the greatest military etc etc but by attacking Iran they are really gonna fuck themselves up big time.Their almighty military power cant protect them all the time.

please do elaborate with reasoning evidenced by something real and substantial. leave the iranian pride aside and think it out with logic.


btw...i don't disagree that it's a bad move.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 please do elaborate with reasoning evidenced by something real and substantial. leave the iranian pride aside and think it out with logic.

You really think Isreal will win by bombing those "nuclear sites"?Have you heard of retaliation?You do realize that there is thousands of hezbollah fighters ready for a green sigs from Iran to attack Isreal right? this is all fact and has nothing do to with "Iranian Pride".You really have to think about the fact that Iran has been planning for such attacks for many years and they have at least a few hundred rockets pointed right at Isreal.

How about Syria?they are one of Irans biggest allies,and rest asure they wont just sit and let Isreal bomb Iran.

This attack will create a chain reaction in the entire region and you can say goodbye to peace for many years to come.

Bombing Iran will not make Isreal safer by any means and anyone with some understadning of the situation would agree with that.

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Originally posted by Kinezi Goggle 'Amber Light to Israel' and you will find same article posted on some Israeli news paper. Maybe that one has more accurate grammer according to English (US) Format. Here: http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?i...ctionid=3510203 And for inaccuracy of the information stated, what you think is inaccurate? I mean you are closer to Bush Administration?

Dude give it a rest,I can show you at least a dozen articles from the last year alone that talk about plans of attacks on Iran by US/Isreal.Most of them even had dates and times of the attacks.

Alot of this crap is political game and fear mongering like always.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer You really think Isreal will win by bombing those "nuclear sites"?Have you heard of retaliation?You do realize that there is thousands of hezbollah fighters ready for a green sigs from Iran to attack Isreal right? this is all fact and has nothing do to with "Iranian Pride".You really have to think about the fact that Iran has been planning for such attacks for many years and they have at least a few hundred rockets pointed right at Isreal. How about Syria?they are one of Irans biggest allies,and rest asure they wont just sit and let Isreal bomb Iran. This attack will create a chain reaction in the entire region and you can say goodbye to peace for many years to come. Bombing Iran will not make Isreal safer by any means and anyone with some understadning of the situation would agree with that.

i don't think it would make israel safer. you just make these statements saying iran will fight back.....so fucking what? that's what happens in war. while the iranian military may have missiles, they have to project them over iraq. you really think the US or iraq is going to let iranian missiles fly over iraq. as to syria, they won't take a substantial move because of the enormous backlash from the US, europe, and israel. the israelis would easily handle any iranian military operations. the problem israel would face (as you noted) is the increased guerilla tactics of the terrorists organizations. your suggestions that somehow iran would mount a succesful counter attack with missiles is misinformed. those missiles sites would be identified and destroyed in tandem with any operations against nuclear facilities.

although, as you noted, this is just political bullshit, and it's in noone's interest to fight a war against iran. especially considering the iranian people seem to be the least anti-western of those in the ME.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 i don't think it would make israel safer. you just make these statements saying iran will fight back.....so fucking what? that's what happens in war.

so fuckin what?Iran fights back more people will die is that what you want?or you just dont care seeing ordinary people getting killed over fuckin bullshit.I sure as hell dont want that.Point is ok Isreal attacks Iran then Iran attacks back and just goes on and on for a long time,it wont be a quick war like many in the west seem to think so.

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while the iranian military may have missiles, they have to project them over iraq. you really think the US or iraq is going to let iranian missiles fly over iraq.

You really think Iran is gonna show off their missle sites to everyone?This is what I mean when I say people underestimate the Iranians.Also dont forget what will happen to the price of oil if such attacks to take place.Another poing to keep in mind is the fact that Iran can easily block Strait of Hormuz and that could cause alot of damage to the oil industry world wide.

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as to syria, they won't take a substantial move because of the enormous backlash from the US, europe, and israel. the israelis would easily handle any iranian military operations. the problem israel would face (as you noted) is the increased guerilla tactics of the terrorists organizations.

Again dont buy into what the media says about Irans capabalities,one thing I can tell you is that they have been speding a shitload of money on their millitary when their war on Iran ended in 1988.There is alot that we dont know about their actual capabilites.

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your suggestions that somehow iran would mount a succesful counter attack with missiles is misinformed. those missiles sites would be identified and destroyed in tandem with any operations against nuclear facilities.

You make it sound simple and thats fine and I guess we ll just have to wait and see.

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although, as you noted, this is just political bullshit, and it's in noone's interest to fight a war against iran. especially considering the iranian people seem to be the least anti-western of those in the ME.

Thats exactly it,by attacking Iran you will turn the people against west and that will not be good for the neocons agenda.Lets hope Washington realizes this fact and doesnt go ahead with another unjustified attack in the middle east.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Thats exactly it,by attacking Iran you will turn the people against west and that will not be good for the neocons agenda.Lets hope Washington realizes this fact and doesnt go ahead with another unjustifies attack in the middle east.

Actually the neocons and authoritarian conservatives as I now call most of them, would love nothing more than to do to Iran what they did to Iraq. They would view it as a positive to encourage more terrorism. If there is more terrorism, there is an excuse for them to power. They could use "wartime powers" to increase their hardline policies, which is exactly what Bush/Cheney did.

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