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Originally posted by Trancelover24 , Blank & Jones, Above & Beyond and Now even PvD is leaving 1015? For the first time in the past few years PvD will play in the bay area but but not at 1015?! Sad.....

Blank & Jones have never been two to stick with one promoter for al ong time...they like to move around.

Above & Beyond, I'm not sure about. When they were booked at Ruby it was a surprise to me.

If there was one DJ I would NOT count on leaving Ten15, it's PvD...if he does it would be a huge surprise to me. PvD played at Ruby once, and the next day according to a friend of mine who knows him well he said he hated the place...mainly the sound...but that was with the old sound system, so who knoews.

PvD playing for another promoter at a massive is nothing. Massives are booked in a different manner than clubs...in other words, the loyalty factor is thrown out the window. I wouldn't expect PvD playing with Skills on Nov 1 at the mini-massive having any influence on where he's booked in clubs. I could be wrong, but just basing things on the history of clubs vs massive bookings...

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Originally posted by Techno_Twins Also, we have more than 4 e-mail accounts and I cannot remember the last time we got an e-mail blast from 1015.

+1 Just looked in my accounts and I see 2 from the past 2 months. WOW SO MANY

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Originally posted by Dj Blurr Dont bother with SMS. Throw this idea out the window NOW please...Most people that get these, myself included, Dont like being spammed via their phone.

+1, It costs some people to receive SMS. Not a good way to appeal to the masses. It would be annoying to receive that on my phone.

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Originally posted by Ten15

Way to be completely unprofessional and look like a total douche. There's a reason I don't come to 1015 on Fridays.

Well personally. i think ruby sky is ok. sound system is cool except for the air condition being in the front of the dj booth.But for 1015, it sucks that hip hop is taking over. I remember the good old days when armin use to go to 1015. those were the real days. the sound system then was good. everything was good. good crowd and everything. But of course, thats when spundae was promoting it. i dont know if its so much of the promoters, its who they bring. It sucks that the main room is hip hop now. hip hop brings violence from my point of view. also, i think 1015 need to upgrade the sound system and the djs. they dont have the same dj like they used to so of course you're not gonna see the same crowd like before. Trance is here to stay, no doubt bout that. Now that trance dj like sean tyas gets to spin in small little room instead of big rooms, it makes u wonder as a dj if its even worth coming. Bottom line is that 1015 needs to get bigger djs. And i'm sure that will solve the problem. Ruby sky is cool. oh yea, the security at 1015 are bunch of ass. thats for sure

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even from an outsider's perspective, 1015 has never been good with business management or communication. in the past that reality could be masked by a good economy sending people through the doors, but when things get challenging it becomes really apparent. in my experience it's never been a secret in this town either. this sort of passive-aggressive infighting is merely a product of that internal culture run amok. it's the kind of thing you don't see or hear about with any other clubs or promotion groups in sf, or any successful business for that matter. it's all so contrary to how i see the rest of the scene here operate--collaboratively. who is the gm that allows these kinds of corrosive attitudes to exist and persist between inside promoters? that's the first guy that should be fired for incompetence.

the only way for 1015 to build anything is for everyone to work collectively towards a common goal. i don't even think clearly-defined goals exist within this business. this is where the owner fails everyone. why are these two guys even being made to compete for resources? it's not enough that 1015 can't even compete with other clubs and promoters, you want your employees to compete with each other? this business should have plenty of money for both people to prove their worth independently and thrive mutually by booking the talent of their respective interests week in and week out without having to hijack one another.

mr. ten15, you should be communicating whatever internal issues you have privately and constructively, not publically and judgmentally. you don't get things done by throwing others under the bus and dragging them through the mud. you actually make things harder on yourself that way. you especially don't criticize others where you haven't shown any outstanding degree of effort or competence yourself. if you're the one making phenomenal flyers and selling the club out on your nights, maybe.

all this bickering over trivial shit like flyers and email blasts mean nothing and will ultimately make no difference until the club starts from the top and correctly identifies what's fundamentally wrong, prioritizes what needs to be done and sets forth a well-defined plan into action. part of that plan should be finding a knowledgeable, competent, diplomatic general manager, a true leader, who has a broad working knowledge of the local entertainment scene and an owner who sits back and listens more than anything else. once everyone is on the same page, there's no reason why this club couldn't be the best in the city. before then, it will continue waxing and waning at the very bottom of the food chain. just my 2 cents.

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on another note... i'd love it if the main room featured house and techno acts along with trance, but the key to making those nights successful is serious commitment and serious promotion. hawtin and tenaglia are big enough names to pull their own crowds, but when you start experimenting with lesser names in these genres, it will really be the promotion aspect that means the difference between a good night and bombing. if you bag the right rising star at the right moment when his name is out there, but his fees aren't through the roof, you can enjoy a huge windfall from that night and from locking in a relationship with that talent. in the beginning it might take the assistance of outside promoters to bring in new crowds, to acclimate the sf night life scene to this wave of change at 1015. the current main room crowd might not be receptive to these new sounds so it's imperative that you reach out to those people that are, pull them into the club. because for the longest time 1015 has developed the rep of being a club dedicated to trance headliners and not much else. it's what the club is known for. repositioning to encompass the diversity of sf's house and techno crowd will take consistency to foster real change. the current scene has these genres well-established with other promoters at other venues. if you're gonna try and stir the pot to get in on the action, you have to push and push hard.

it would also be nice for a change to walk into 1015 and not have to hear hip hop immediately, predictably. there are many clubbers who love electronic, can't stand hip hop, who appreciate those venues where they can go and hear good electronic music the second they walk through those doors. it might not seem like a big deal, but walking into endup, ruby, vessel, mezzanine or mighty and immediately getting into the music as i enter the club is something i've never experienced at 1015 and it's a good feeling. 1015 is a multi-room, multi-genre club and it should play with formats more. try house in the front, hip hop in the basement, breaks upstairs, trance in the main room one night and breaks in the front, house in the main, trance in the basement, hip hop upstairs another. variety is the spice of life and it's what keeps things interesting week in and week out. the more you change things up and keep your patrons on their toes, the more interested they'll be in finding out what's happening next weekend. it also isn't a bad idea to cycle these different crowds throughout the club to keep the idea of exploring the place out there.

i think the important thing to keep in mind though is when playing with change, results may vary greatly depending on what your competitors are doing the same night or how seriously your event was promoted to achieve those results. poor results should be looked at carefully before judgment is handed down. if some fresh act has less than stellar results, it doesn't mean it's a bad idea to move in that direction. it probably needs more time and more work to get the results you're after. rebranding a club and changing long-held perceptions throughout the scene will be a slow process that involves consistency and persistence. it will take many leaps of faith, big risks, some stumbling, but ultimately huge rewards.

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Originally posted by IRVING GRANADOS
hi voy a escribir en espanol por k en ingles se me pasan algunas letras so if yuo dont understend espaÑol. good luck .
personalmente ami megusta ir a 1015 desde hace ya 5 a 6 aÑos es uno de los mejores clubs in san francisco. siempre tienen alos mejores djs de el mundo!!el dj booth es de lo mejor estar cercas de los djs es algo chido!!! mis amigos en mexico se quejan de k no pueden estar cercas de los djs y yo en 1015 gracias a taj puedo estar cercas de los djs... me siento muy afortunado y seguro con los de seguridad!!yo siempre voy tomar fotos y videos esa es mi pacion, claro bailo solo por k voy solo mi esposa se keda en casa a cuidar amis hijas.!! solo en el lovefest me acompaÑa!!
bueno todo lo k comparto es k 1015 is my ny 1 club.. greetings irving g. y ruby skye my n2...

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Originally posted by CaptKirk Translation..... personally, I've liked 1015 for 5 or 6 years ago and it's one of the most improved clubs in San Francisco. It always has the best djs from around the World. Out of all the clubs, 1015 has the best/most improved dj booths. My friends in Mexico complain about fences around the dj booth. NO FENCES! 1015 doesn't have fences. I always feel fortunate and safe with the big strong female security guards at 1015 and the generally friendly attitude of everyone. I also look at the photos to remember how messed up I was at 1015. Thank you Taj for dancing with me when I locked my wife up at home so she wouldn't find out about the young sexy girl I met at Lovefest. haha 1015 is the best club, my number 1 club.

quote of the year lol. had a flashback to this post earlier today lol.

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Originally posted by bigperf Originally posted by IRVING GRANADOS hi voy a escribir en espanol por k en ingles se me pasan algunas letras so if yuo dont understend espaÑol. good luck . personalmente ami megusta ir a 1015 desde hace ya 5 a 6 aÑos es uno de los mejores clubs in san francisco. siempre tienen alos mejores djs de el mundo!!el dj booth es de lo mejor estar cercas de los djs es algo chido!!! mis amigos en mexico se quejan de k no pueden estar cercas de los djs y yo en 1015 gracias a taj puedo estar cercas de los djs... me siento muy afortunado y seguro con los de seguridad!!yo siempre voy tomar fotos y videos esa es mi pacion, claro bailo solo por k voy solo mi esposa se keda en casa a cuidar amis hijas.!! solo en el lovefest me acompaÑa!! bueno todo lo k comparto es k 1015 is my ny 1 club.. greetings irving g. y ruby skye my n2... quote of the year lol. had a flashback to this post earlier today lol.

haha, you fuckin shit talker. We're on the count down now my brotha. What day are you and Dori coming up? We can go do some things during the day. have a great week.

hey it looks like the only sht talking was you lol.

we are flying in thursday the 2nd will be in SF in the afternoon until sunday evening.

the parade will be fun, maybe we can meet up and you can show us the ropes. thursday vessell for sure.

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Originally posted by bigperf hey it looks like the only sht talking was you lol. we are flying in thursday the 2nd will be in SF in the afternoon until sunday evening. the parade will be fun, maybe we can meet up and you can show us the ropes. thursday vessell for sure.

Yeah, looks like Vessel is a definate for me. Drinks at the hotel still? Do you have my number? Will text you with it.

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Originally posted by CaptKirk Yeah, looks like Vessel is a definate for me. Drinks at the hotel still? Do you have my number? Will text you with it.

ya i have it....-510-***-*200

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Originally posted by bigperf ya i have it....-510-***-*200

Thanks....I forgot to text ya. haha Yeah that's it. See ya soon.