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Originally posted by mickeymarley Sooner the Moto Gp Starts the better Or when Rossi and Vettel team up for Ferrari That would be nice

Moto GP this weekend!

I was thinking of hitting the race at Assen NL this year.

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Originally posted by nchs09 Becuase they are doing better than Mclaren.. Well, almost everyone is, so i hate everyone equally.

You know McLaren is really in the shit when you have to start hating on Force India for being higher in the points This day might come sooner than you're prepared for! All it would take is a strong showing by Feces or Sutil and they grab a lucky 7th.

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Fuck, liar-gate is crazy shit! Hamilton thinking of quitting Mclaren, FIA thinking of throwing McLaren and Hamilton out of the championships...

Honestly, they fucked up hard on this one. It was not honest mistake, and it was a completely deliberate attempt to get more points by pointing the blame at another driver. But, the single worst part, is that they lied after the race to the Stewards, then lied again four days later!

This is almost worse than spy-gate, because that was one person in the McLaren org trying to cheat. This was discussed between lots of people, and they consciously chose to lie.

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Hamilton, Ryan refused to change story Lewis Hamilton and McLaren's former sporting director Dave Ryan refused to change their story about having deliberately let Jarno Trulli through at the Australian Grand Prix, despite being played radio conversations and media interviews that suggested the contrary in their second stewards' hearing at Sepang. This week's AUTOSPORT reveals that Hamilton and Ryan maintained their stance in that second hearing that Trulli had taken it upon himself to overtake the McLaren in the closing stages of the Melbourne race, even though the stewards presented them with fresh evidence to say they were lying. In the first detailed account of the stewards' hearings that have resulted in McLaren being called before the FIA's World Motor Sport Council, AUTOSPORT reports that Ryan and Hamilton stuck to their original story when recalled for the second hearing. An FIA source told AUTOSPORT: "First of all, Lewis heard the radio exchange. It appeared that the strategy was to be extremely vague and not be very direct with the answers. Then the interview where he said, 'I was told to let him through' was played. "At that point they both got very uncomfortable, but still denied that's what had actually happened. "It was a bit surreal, this situation where you had the radio evidence and the interview, and they were putting a completely different interpretation on what the words actually meant. But the words were very, very clear." FIA race director Charlie Whiting has also revealed that Hamilton denied more than once in the original hearing in Australia that he had let Trulli pass him. Whiting said: "When asked very clearly, 'Did you consciously let him past, did you pull over to let him past', he [Hamilton] said, 'No'. The question was asked more than once. He was adamant that he hadn't slowed down and hadn't let Trulli past."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74368

How the fuck you gonna lie to Charlie? To colour McLaren as being bad, after decades of sporting history is one thing. But for Hamilton, who has only had two seasons under his belt, and has been involved in so much contraversy...I guess this is what James Allen would say 'this is character building stuff' as a nice way of putting it.

To put this in perspective, when Schumacher tried to bump Jaques off the track, he had all his points stripped from that year's championship.

There is no way they will throw them out of the championship.. season just started.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

Woot, the FIA has found the twin diffuser from Braw/Toyota and Williams to be legal.

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FIA declares double diffusers legal The FIA International Court of Appeal has declared the double-decker diffuser designs used by Brawn GP, Toyota and Williams as legal. Following overnight deliberation by the judges after a court hearing in Paris on Tuesday, the ICA has rejected the appeals lodged by Ferrari, Red Bull Racing and Renault. BMW Sauber and McLaren had also entered the appeal as affected parties. A statement issued by the FIA on Wednesday morning said: "The FIA International Court of Appeal has decided to deny the appeals submitted against decisions numbered 16 to 24 taken by the Panel of the Stewards on 26 March at the 2009 Grand Prix of Australia and counting towards the 2009 FIA Formula One World Championship. "Based on the arguments heard and evidence before it, the Court has concluded that the Stewards were correct to find that the cars in question comply with the applicable regulations." The ICA's decision is a blow to those teams that did not pursue the design concept when they created their 2009 cars - as it is widely accepted that the double-decker diffusers have brought a performance advantage. Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen suggested last week that the diffuser decision would be vital for the outcome of the world title - with his team likely to have to wait for several races before being able to fit a suitable one to their car. "The FIA's Court of Appeal will decide about the diffuser and this decision will have an enormous impact on the championship," Raikkonen said. "We're missing grip and downforce. You just need to analyse the performance in the three sectors at Sepang to understand that we're losing a lot compared to the best cars. You could see it especially in the middle sector where downforce is really crucial. The row over the diffusers has also led to intense confrontation between the rival factions - with Brawn GP team principal Ross Brawn being on the receiving end of attacks from Renault and Ferrari about his use of the diffuser concept. However, he has stood firm in his belief that the design was legal – and confirmed recently that he offered rivals the chance to close off the regulations to prevent teams exploiting the diffuser designs, but they rejected the opportunity. "In March 2008 that was offered," said Brawn, when asked by AUTOSPORT about the matter. "If I'm frank I didn't say 'look we are going to do this diffuser if you don't accept this rule' because I'm not going to tell people what we're doing, but I explained that I felt that we should have a different set of rules to simplify what needs to be done. "I offered them and they were rejected, so my conscience is very clear. And those rules that I put on the table would have stopped a lot of things. It would have stopped the diffuser, it would have stopped all those bargeboards around the front, and it would have cleaned the cars up. "Because it was clear that when we started to work on the regulations that there were things that you could do, and we needed to perhaps clean them up, but nobody was interested. They are interested now." http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74475

Now lets stay the fuck out of the courts, and get back to racing on the track.

^ Thank fuck that the FIA showed some common sense.

Now everyone has to play catch-up which should make for some interesting racing.

I also like how Brawn was on record last year about this potential gray area and none of the other teams wanted to re-write this section of the rules.

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Brawn is a stand up guy, and certainly knows his shit. Good for him, and coming out to say: i told you so.

I'm also glad to see William back near the front with an advanced design. I was fearing for the worst over the last few years after BMW left. With the economic downturn, lack of resources of a factory team, and therefore lack of results, I was thinking they were on their way out.

Ferrari is in serious trouble. They have now removed Luca Baldisarri (sp?) from any roll on the racing team. Shit is hitting the fan.

^ Exactly, though Frank has always been saying that his team can do more with less than any other on the grid. Here's their chance and they are proving it for sure.

Ferrari is in a bad way for sure. Not since the late 80's have they appeared as outwardly shaken. They had a crap run in the 90's too, but were much more cool about it. It will be interesting to see how them and McLaren bounce back. I almost think that either team is too "big" to adapt quickly enough to this.

BMW stands a better chance, as does Red Bull. Newey is staying home from the race this weekend to design an update that they hope to have for Monaco

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I wonder if they will fix the rule for 2010

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Originally posted by stren I wonder if they will fix the rule for 2010

They should open it up and allow more diffuser development since the diffusers create downforce without creating a huge mess of dirty air behind the car. More downforce from diffusers means less downforce required by drag & turbulence inducing wings. That was the whole point of the stupid small rear wing and the giant front snow plow. More front grip and less dirty air.

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