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Originally posted by Clovis

How else do you think McCain ended up as the candidate? Because the foolish GOP strategists and pundits saw how the efforts of the Democrats was working so well, and thought the way to victory was to have a candidate that could appeal to independants, democrats, and republicans. Rather than a leader who stands for principles, the pundits and strategists said McCain was the only one who could beat Hillary or Obama because he's shown the ability to "walk across the aisle". He ended up looking like a pandering fool, which is basically what McCain is. In the end, the independants broke for Obama anyway. The GOP has some lame ass strategists these days.

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Originally posted by josh4 Dice the party up into groups and throw under the bus whomever you want. The public doesn't see it that way and they certainly don't separate Bush from Republican or Republican from Conservative.

The public is horribly uninformed. Or, as they say, the masses are asses.

Rush is the ideological leader of the Republican Party. That really is a sad scenario...Divisive politics at its best...

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Originally posted by The17sss How else do you think McCain ended up as the candidate? Because the foolish GOP strategists and pundits saw how the efforts of the Democrats was working so well, and thought the way to victory was to have a candidate that could appeal to independants, democrats, and republicans. Rather than a leader who stands for principles, the pundits and strategists said McCain was the only one who could beat Hillary or Obama because he's shown the ability to "walk across the aisle". He ended up looking like a pandering fool, which is basically what McCain is. In the end, the independants broke for Obama anyway. The GOP has some lame ass strategists these days.

You guys split some hilarious hairs with your whole "who's really republican" thing...

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by josh4 Off topic how does CNBC compare to MSNBC or where does it place on the spectrum? I ask because I know some people that watch it and the political leanings of those people are hard to pin down. I've never viewed CNBC so I'm curious

Eh, it's mixed. It caters to Wall Street, so you'd expect a typical more GOP tilt, but you'd be surprised some of the time. Generally they try to focus more on business, but business and politics are so intertwined that they get into both. You'll generally find plenty of opposing viewpoints on it though. The station is horrible though as far as anchors and objectivity go (on both sides).

Too funny:

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During his much-discussed keynote address at the Conservative Political Action Conference on Saturday, Rush Limbaugh accused Barack Obama of pursuing the "bastardization of the U.S. Constitution." It was one of the more politically acidic notes in a speech defined by rambling political assaults. But the conservative talk show host wasn't exactly standing on firm footing. Just a few moments earlier he himself had actually -- not theoretically -- "bastardized" the Constitution by confusing it with the Declaration of Independence. From Limbaugh's speech: quote: We want every American to be the best he or she chooses to be. We recognize that we are all individuals. We love and revere our founding documents, the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. [Applause] We believe that the preamble to the Constitution contains an inarguable truth that we are all endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights, among them life. [Applause] Liberty, Freedom. [Applause] And the pursuit of happiness. [Applause] Those of you watching at home may wonder why this is being applauded. We conservatives think all three are under assault. [Applause] Thank you. Thank you. Limbaugh, it seems, meant to say "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness," which, of course, is in the Declaration of Independence.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/...i_n_171029.html

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According to Rush we have a right to liberty and pursuit of happiness only as long as we agree with him...

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Originally posted by Clovis You guys split some hilarious hairs with your whole "who's really republican" thing...

It's pretty cut-and-dry... Republicans are us. Democrats are them. That's all there is to it.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On It's pretty cut-and-dry... Republicans are us. Democrats are them. That's all there is to it.

Libertarians are I.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/...i_n_171029.html

almost as funny as when Obama made up those languages that people in Afghanistan speak. I always chuckle when you quote the Huffpo, after one of their people just got busted for doctoring video by cutting Trace Gallaghers voice saying one thing over John Gibson's who was saying another to make him look racist (to Huff's credit, they fired the guy but that's the kind of people that work over there). See doctored video below, followed by the real video.

http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/blog/rex256797662.html