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Originally posted by trancension Nice I got to shake his hand and talk to him for a minute up in Charlotte the following week. Unfortunately me and my friends forgot our cameras or else I'd of taken a million. <3 Markus Schulz! The Forum's staff is really chill actually. It's a shame it isn't down here in Atlanta =/

Thank god we don't get the gestapo treatment in Charlotte at all. The dj booth is down low with the crowd as well...you can just raise your arm and your able to shake hands with a dj during set. I love the place...shame we don't get good crowds like you guys in Atlanta though. That's the only drawback we have.

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Originally posted by enydo Don't eat brownies with probably about 4x the amount of thc in them you would actually need. Brownies with a correct percentage are very sweet.

I never wanna' be high at a show regardless.

next tiem i buy you a shot, it will have a roofie in it.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

Oh, Mario! You don't have to roofie me to have your way!

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Originally posted by iammesol Oh, Mario! You don't have to roofie me to have your way!

lmfao

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Originally posted by Lostvission Thank god we don't get the gestapo treatment in Charlotte at all. The dj booth is down low with the crowd as well...you can just raise your arm and your able to shake hands with a dj during set. I love the place...shame we don't get good crowds like you guys in Atlanta though. That's the only drawback we have.

Yeh, everyone that goes to the Forum pretty much likes it but there is also a ton of people who do not since you cant bring in glow products. Me personally, I love it for all the reasons above and then some.

I had an awesome experience attending Opera on Wednesday, and I'm sorry to hear that others have so many grievances. I'd like to say I'm a pretty tolerant guy, and I really couldn't care less about the motivations of the other clubbers. I'm not going to assume that my status as an Armin van Buuren fan inherently makes my enjoyment of the event more important than anyone else's. As Devin said, we're all there for entertainment.

I suppose the club experience would be more harmonious if everyone were respectful and attending the show for the same reason, but at the end of the day, we're listening to club music at a club. What do you expect? Any venue large enough to attract big-name DJs in Atlanta is going to have a huge crowd, overpriced drinks, and a fair share of people you might not get along with. This probably won't change. At Opera -- and pretty much any club I've gone to -- I've been shoved, threatened, soaked with drinks, and stepped on, so I expect this will continue to happen at future events, and I don't care, since it's worth it all for a chance to hear my favorite DJs, in my opinion. Besides, I can't justifiably take issue with the club environment: I've accidentally shoved my fellow clubbers, spilled drinks on them, danced on their toes, and so on. Hell, I've attended EDM events where I didn't care too much for the music, and I knew nothing about the DJ, but I still had fun -- should I have stayed home instead?

(Granted, there are some extreme cases of irritating club-goers. At AVB, there was this one dude in a headband that shoved past me (headed in various directions) about six times in the span of ten minutes. Where was he going?)

So, the composition of the crowd isn't likely going change, but I think it'd be healthy for the Atlanta EDM scene to see a change in venue soon. I'm not as hostile toward Opera as everyone else here, but it's troubling that Opera is now practically the only game in town. Its monopoly on massive EDM events is hardly a good thing for its patrons. Considering the shows are constantly packed, and it's consistently making a fortune, Opera has no incentive to improve. Management can ignore the sound system, continue to pack in as many people as possible, treat customers poorly, and it can currently do all of this without fear of a competing club claiming the top DJs.

What can be done to address the situation? Personally, I'd like to see a smaller venue that reliably caters to a trance-friendly audience, featuring local trance DJs on a regular basis. The somewhat-creepy after-hours parties are fun once in a while, but I'd like to see a more approachable mainstream venue that serves up some sweet trance and EDM regularly. After all, we don't need Armin or Markus Schulz to hear some danceable tracks, like DiscoStew [*] was saying.

[* Can't say I agree with DiscoStew's entire post, though, since I do enjoy hearing a producer drop his or her own tracks while interacting with the fans. Just my opinion. Call me corny, but I compare it to a classical composer conducting his or her own works for an audience.]

[** Also, that PLUR post was hilarious ... (er, even if I agree with the underlying message).]

Seems like I have different expectations of people spending $50 or $60 to get into a club on a Wednesday night then. Because the people I'm talking about obviously did not pre-buy their tickets.

I would expect people spending that kind of money to see a DJ would actually want to stop for a moment and hear the DJ and give the music a try. Not be complete assholes to the people who are trying to enjoy the music.

I don't know. I guess when a world famous DJ comes into town, part of me expects the crowd to be there to hear him play...not walk around trying to score ecstasy or pick up high school girls.

Different expectations I guess.

i had a great time when the parties were at wetbar. The crowd was definitely better due to the fact that most of the people who would cause trouble stayed away from that place due to the gay presence. The sound system was way better also.

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Originally posted by trancension expectations

there's your problem. if you expected less and accepted more, you'll be happier.