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Lebezniatnikov
Stupidity Annoys Me



Registered: Feb 2004
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Originally posted by Domesticated
Sitting in class while some professor who's never had any real world experience or worked in a proper job says "to be a good manager, you must be understanding towards those you work with" isn't going to imbue that quality in you or actually improve your skills.


Someone who doesn't have any management experience likely would not be teaching a management course. Those types of courses are usually taught by practitioners who adjunct at the University.

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My Dad always said: "those who can, do, and those who can't, teach".


Not my experience.

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That's another big problem I have with university; half the teachers are great academics and incredibly intelligent, but they've never learned how to apply their skills to the real world because they've spent their entire lives in institutions. How can you learn marketing or accounting from someone who's never had a job in those fields?


You can't, which is why you should stay away from any institutions that have those types of professors.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Domesticated
My Dad always said: "those who can, do, and those who can't, teach".


would you prefer to be teaching for 5 minutes a week, have new hot first-years every year and holidays as long as dirk diggler's cock; or would you rather work 8-7 every day in a shitty office for the rest of your life?


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Zild
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would you prefer to be teaching for 5 minutes a week, have new hot first-years every year and holidays as long as dirk diggler's cock; or would you rather work 8-7 every day in a shitty office for the rest of your life?


People at the real jobs make actual money.


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Domesticated
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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Someone who doesn't have any management experience likely would not be teaching a management course. Those types of courses are usually taught by practitioners who adjunct at the University.


This is my point though. Regardless of how much management experience someone may have, can they pass on that experience and skill? I don't think they can. If you disagree with that then we will have to agree to disagree.

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Not my experience.


I've had some fantastic teachers too; I don't think that's a hard and fast rule.

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Lebezniatnikov
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Probably proves you actually learned something and can problem solve instead of bullshit your way through a degree.


So in your opinion objective learning is somehow more intellectual than subjective? That memorization of fact trumps abstract thinking in daily life?


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Zild
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So in your opinion objective learning is somehow more intellectual than subjective? That memorization of fact trumps abstract thinking in daily life?


Math and science have the least to do with memorization and the most to do with creativity but you haven't been that far.


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Lebezniatnikov
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This is my point though. Regardless of how much management experience someone may have, can they pass on that experience and skill? I don't think they can. If you disagree with that then we will have to agree to disagree.


Well then we'll have to take that route. I've taken one management class and I fell back on the lessons from that class routinely when I had my own staff, and even wish that I had taken more.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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People at the real jobs make actual money.


tenured professor pay isn't anything to sneeze at. especially if you're talking how much time you have to do work for.

But of course you could venture into far higher paying jobs, like in the financial mar- oh wait.


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Lebezniatnikov
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Math and science have the least to do with memorization and the most to do with creativity but you haven't been that far.


Well then obviously Zild > Lebezniatnikov, since I evidently "bs'ed my way to a degree."


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Domesticated
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
would you prefer to be teaching for 5 minutes a week, have new hot first-years every year and holidays as long as dirk diggler's cock; or would you rather work 8-7 every day in a shitty office for the rest of your life?


I'd rather be challenged daily.

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Originally posted by Zild
Probably proves you actually learned something and can problem solve instead of bullshit your way through a degree.




I can't believe I didn't see it before. You've obviously failed humanitarian subjects before and that's why you're so down on them. You're pissed off because you see them as bullshit and you're frustrated that you still couldn't do well.

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Zild
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tenured professor pay isn't anything to sneeze at. especially if you're talking how much time you have to do work for.

But of course you could venture into far higher paying jobs, like in the financial mar- oh wait.


Looking at the professors in my department I wouldn't want to be one. They work much harder for a lot less than they would in industry.


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We don't normally see zild acting like a dickhead. It’s a refreshing change!


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