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Originally posted by SMC The thread needs more GOJIRA.

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DEVOURMENT!!!!

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Originally posted by TotalDeathXZero Its not that its the same, its just not as impressive as most of the better bands of the death metal scene. Morbid Angel is amazing btw... Altars of Madness is a legendary release. Also Morbid Angel has a new album comming out

Lulz, :O:O:O MORBIANJELLLL! That's going to go off!. Mann Cryptopsy are the bomb and Children Of Bodom are releasing a new covers album. Should be cool.

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Originally posted by TotalDeathXZero 3. Rammstein - Industrial Metal From Germany

Oh such a great band

Venom are good though, that's how David Young (Chi A.D.) started his career.

As for some decent melodeath:
Well concidering death doom/funeral doom all came from melo death anyway some of the stuff below might be that too. Certainly melodic and death metal anyways.








Which i could find some of the other stuff on youtube of this band but can't seem to find it anymore.




Probably not so much melodeath but it's melodic and it's death metal:




As for genres in metal: This is my limited understanding:

Classic/Traditional/Heavy metal: The least heavy of the main genres and being the oldest, has a few epic/doomey elements hidden within it as well.

I guess Rob zombie would be the typical sortof traditional metal sound (or obviously the guys from the 70s)

Power metal: The uplifting vocals based stuff usually about something epic. The epic trance of metal

Speed Metal: Not so much faster metal, but metal that has the sound of the era of when metal was starting to speed up. A bit faster then traditional stuff but still.

Thrash metal: The harder, faster, angrier more monotone 80s metal sound.

Black metal: Sortof an extention of thrash, only with a focus on atmosphere and evil sounding ness. Quite melodic naturally, even the most badass stuff is very melodic and often has keyboards. Vocals are allmost allways screeched. Percussion is generally machine gunney and somewhat hypnotic and allways sortof melodic.

Death metal: Also came from thrash. With a focus on riffs rather than melodies, and heavyness generally. Also quite a technical style even the melodic varients use many different guitar playing techniques to create dissonant sounds. Notably main subgenres are: brutal, technical and melodic. Guitars are downtuned (black metal/thrash guitars hardly ever are afaik) often quite far, to create a deeper more bassey sound. Vocals are generally growled.

Doom metal: Various slower subgenres/genres that generally focus on having a doomey atmosphere and longer tracks. Things tend to be either traditional metal (like candlemass) or (melodic) death metal based.

The various not quite so metal genres:

Nu metal: Experimental metal, although suffice to say the vast majority of it is crap. From rap metal, to boring funk breakbeats with the occasional electric guitar riff. Often a crossover with hardcore punk and or rap (think linkin park). Often uses synths (badly)

Industrial metal: Much more manly (and a fair bit faster) and electric guitar focused industrial to metal with synthesized elements (that isn't much to do with nu metal, although the two can sound similar at times).

Metalcore: Hardcore punk with a more metal structure and mixed with melodic death metal riffs/a few death metal playing techniques(although you wouldn't necassarily allways pick that the influence comes from death metal by listening to it). Generally much more on the hardcore punk side, although there's some stuff that's anywhere on the scale. There's a lot of emo stuff as well that falls within this subgenre... generally has shouted hxc style vocals.

Deathcore: Metalcore (not hardcore punk and death) mixed with brutal death metal. Basically lots of bands trying to be really heavy/brutal... with 1/2 minute breakdowns (on 4 minute songs) so the scene kids can do their hardcore dancing. Much more metal than metalcore though certainly. Generally has the brutal death monotone style death metal vocals with or without hxc style shouted vocals as well.

Grindcore: Brutal death metal mixed with hardcore punk or something. Basically based around being really really hard/brutal... and really short tracks. Usually between a minute and a half or.... seven seconds the epitomy of compositional skill.

Various subgenres:

Death doom: Slower melodic death metal with longer song lengths and a doomey atmosphere.

Funeral Doom: An extension of death doom, even longer track lengths... heavy focus on keyboards and the percussion is usually hypnotic. Often mixed with ambient and or gothic music. Can have growled vocals, clean vocals or both. Probably my other favourite style along with black metal. Basically if this becomes too minimal it becomes Drone doom, too melodic/synth based it becomes ambient.

Drone doom: Downtuned guitar based soundscapes, quite minimal.

Technical death: The genre I tell my dad he should play every time he keeps moaning about how good an accordian players skills are and how electronic music isn't the same.

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter Oh such a great band

What's wrong with Rammstein?


And dude, not to split hairs or rain on your parade in any way, but none of the vids you posted are melodic deathmetal. They're all doom metal, except one that's deathcore/deathgrind/some other crap like that (I don't listen to those genres enough to differentiate). Furthermore, you might want to read up the definition of melodic .

As for what actual melodic death metal sounds like, refer to the videos I posted above. There should be no genre discrepancies there

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Originally posted by OrZonE What's wrong with Rammstein? And dude, not to split hairs or rain on your parade in any way, but none of the vids you posted are melodic deathmetal. They're all doom metal, except one that's deathcore/deathgrind/some other crap like that (I don't listen to those genres enough to differentiate). Furthermore, you might want to read up the definition of melodic . As for what actual melodic death metal sounds like, refer to the videos I posted above. There should be no genre discrepancies there

Yes, that's exactly what I said. Read what I said again. I know you mentioned melodeath but death doom/etc came from that anyway so I thought I might post that since people who are into that might be interested.

Yes, that song was deathcore, but it sounded pretty melodeathey imo. Certainly one of their less "core" songs.

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter Oh such a great band Venom are good though, that's how David Young (Chi A.D.) started his career. As for some decent melodeath: Well concidering death doom/funeral doom all came from melo death anyway some of the stuff below might be that too. Certainly melodic and death metal anyways. Which i could find some of the other stuff on youtube of this band but can't seem to find it anymore. Probably not so much melodeath but it's melodic and it's death metal: As for genres in metal: This is my limited understanding: Classic/Traditional/Heavy metal: The least heavy of the main genres and being the oldest, has a few epic/doomey elements hidden within it as well. I guess Rob zombie would be the typical sortof traditional metal sound (or obviously the guys from the 70s) Power metal: The uplifting vocals based stuff usually about something epic. The epic trance of metal Speed Metal: Not so much faster metal, but metal that has the sound of the era of when metal was starting to speed up. A bit faster then traditional stuff but still. Thrash metal: The harder, faster, angrier more monotone 80s metal sound. Black metal: Sortof an extention of thrash, only with a focus on atmosphere and evil sounding ness. Quite melodic naturally, even the most badass stuff is very melodic and often has keyboards. Vocals are allmost allways screeched. Percussion is generally machine gunney and somewhat hypnotic and allways sortof melodic. Death metal: Also came from thrash. With a focus on riffs rather than melodies, and heavyness generally. Also quite a technical style even the melodic varients use many different guitar playing techniques to create dissonant sounds. Notably main subgenres are: brutal, technical and melodic. Guitars are downtuned (black metal/thrash guitars hardly ever are afaik) often quite far, to create a deeper more bassey sound. Vocals are generally growled. Doom metal: Various slower subgenres/genres that generally focus on having a doomey atmosphere and longer tracks. Things tend to be either traditional metal (like candlemass) or (melodic) death metal based. The various not quite so metal genres: Nu metal: Experimental metal, although suffice to say the vast majority of it is crap. From rap metal, to boring funk breakbeats with the occasional electric guitar riff. Often a crossover with hardcore punk and or rap (think linkin park). Often uses synths (badly) Industrial metal: Much more manly (and a fair bit faster) and electric guitar focused industrial to metal with synthesized elements (that isn't much to do with nu metal, although the two can sound similar at times). Metalcore: Hardcore punk with a more metal structure and mixed with melodic death metal riffs/a few death metal playing techniques(although you wouldn't necassarily allways pick that the influence comes from death metal by listening to it). Generally much more on the hardcore punk side, although there's some stuff that's anywhere on the scale. There's a lot of emo stuff as well that falls within this subgenre... generally has shouted hxc style vocals. Deathcore: Metalcore (not hardcore punk and death) mixed with brutal death metal. Basically lots of bands trying to be really heavy/brutal... with 1/2 minute breakdowns (on 4 minute songs) so the scene kids can do their hardcore dancing. Much more metal than metalcore though certainly. Generally has the brutal death monotone style death metal vocals with or without hxc style shouted vocals as well. Grindcore: Brutal death metal mixed with hardcore punk or something. Basically based around being really really hard/brutal... and really short tracks. Usually between a minute and a half or.... seven seconds the epitomy of compositional skill. Various subgenres: Death doom: Slower melodic death metal with longer song lengths and a doomey atmosphere. Funeral Doom: An extension of death doom, even longer track lengths... heavy focus on keyboards and the percussion is usually hypnotic. Often mixed with ambient and or gothic music. Can have growled vocals, clean vocals or both. Probably my other favourite style along with black metal. Basically if this becomes too minimal it becomes Drone doom, too melodic/synth based it becomes ambient. Drone doom: Downtuned guitar based soundscapes, quite minimal. Technical death: The genre I tell my dad he should play every time he keeps moaning about how good an accordian players skills are and how electronic music isn't the same.

Eh your missing some definitions and some of those aren't exactly right or just wrong. BTW I find Rob zombie to be somewhat Traditional Heavy Metal mixed with Industrial.

Was a huge metal fan back in the day before getting into trance.

My favorite bands were Megadeth and X Japan, but I also liked Metallica, Symphony X, Blind Guardian, Stratovarius, Iron Maiden, Cacophony (except for their horrid vocalist), Onmyouza (they sound like Maiden but with a female vocalist).

I always go nuts when I hear this song get played in clubs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mllWv8eNvw

Sounds a lot better with the bpm slowed down a bit though. Never heard it played at this bpm in a club.

Darkarbiter, that was really unnecessary.

Last edited by SMC on Aug-18-2009 at 13:00