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coolestrl
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Registered: Mar 2008
Location: New York, New York

here from his twitter
quote:

On my way now to New York. Playing Electric Zoo festival same time with Guetta! I'm in luck that Paul van dyk is not playing in NY! ;o)


anyways

I saw Paul Van Dyk Last week at central park, new york

and saw ATB last night at electric zoo festival

Music wise Paul owns atb. even tho both their sets were sub par.

ATB just keeps dropping hits on 9PM in every fucking track, stop doin it already its not new anymore.

And Paul needs to stop cutting dong ths songs and jumping from 1 track to another.

Any way i have seen ATB enough times to know that hes a whiney arrogant prick with ego problems.

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Infinitor
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Hamburg, Germany

If the following thing is true (found it in the official atb forum) a lot of people will change their mind.
Forum Link
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Quote:
Well, i am more interested to find out why all this played out so late, as on the festival timetable i bought at the event it clearly states:
ATB 20:45-22:45
Judge Jules 22:45-00:00
Paul van Dyk 00:00-02:00
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What???? Thats very very interesting! If this is true, I think all the people who still thinks I´m talking about wrong facts!?
Still unbelievable for me. Tomorrow my Management and Booking agency will give an official statement to all the things that happened.

I would appreciate, if more people can confirm this timetable published on the festival!

Andre

Old Post Sep-08-2009 01:56  Germany
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movingincircles
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: USA

quote:
Originally posted by DaveT
So what did Judge Jules do? Did the music have to be shut off?

WHY did it have to be Judge Jules?

What did Jules do to entertain the crowd?

WHY did it matter if it happened if Jules played ealrier or later....they said the change out needed to happen before PvD came out. Did they have to wait for the replacement generators to come in or something?

This type of stuff isn't really explained. The reasoning there is vague.

This all said, PvD has a rep on this stuff and of course he and the promoter would defend any action they did to move slots around....so until I hear clear reasoning, I think both sides are guilty...only way to be fair.

ATB's ranting vs the promtoer's nicely written responses aren't helpign ATB though.


as usual, daveT loves to talk about pvd drama + festivals that have the word "love" in them.
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anyways, all of this drama happens around top 100 djs voting time.
there's a good chance that atb wants pvd off the top 10 list.

like anyone cares about the list except people who are in the $$$ business.
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trancechan needs a promotion for that art btw.

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iTranscendence
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Registered: Jul 2009
Location: The Biggest Little City

lol (not)


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SuspicionVandit
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i've been so deceived. This is like the bush administration all over again.


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boris_the_bear
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Registered: Oct 2008
Location: Lower Chernobylstan

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
How are they any different?

PvD played some ultra-epic sets during 2000-2004, then his genius faded away never heard a ATB set before though

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Nik Novo
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Munich, Germany

quote:
Originally posted by coolestrl
ATB just keeps dropping hits on 9PM in every fucking track, stop doin it already its not new anymore.


And PVD plays For an Angel in every fucking set, he seriously needs to stop it.


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barry2006
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Location: galway,ireland

quote:
Originally posted by Nik Novo
And PVD plays For an Angel in every fucking set, he seriously needs to stop it.


have to agree with you,its well overdone now at this stage.

he even opened the planetlove set with it...awful awful AWFUL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKajRzLzphg


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inazuma
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Registered: Aug 2009
Location: Tokyo, Japan

quote:
Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
Does he state a reason? Style too different? PvD wanted more playtime? Doesn't like AT? Wanted more time to play Karaoke with the crowd? Becoming more of an egotisitcal sh!t every day?

Ugh, he's playing in Tokyo on 10th October, and I'm currently planning on going down to see him.

He sucked balls last time (Feb '08). In fact it was horrendous. The only good thing that came from that night was dancing to Yoda's set before and after.

I'm hoping last time was just a blip, but judging by that Youtube clip and other comments, I'm fearing it's gonna be crap, again.


I was planning on going too but with all the crap I've been hearing lately, I'm having second thoughts. Might just decide to go out and support a few local DJs' events instead...twice the energy, 99% less bullshit.
As far as I know right now, there's a great "cyber"/tech-dance event scheduled for a lounge in Akasaka and a cyber/hard trance event in Roppongi on that same night.


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My asshole was so raw by the end of it, my god.

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karanicleaves
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Registered: Apr 2008
Location: Washington DC

quote:
Originally posted by DaveT
So what did Judge Jules do? Did the music have to be shut off?

WHY did it have to be Judge Jules?

What did Jules do to entertain the crowd?

WHY did it matter if it happened if Jules played ealrier or later....they said the change out needed to happen before PvD came out. Did they have to wait for the replacement generators to come in or something?

This type of stuff isn't really explained. The reasoning there is vague.

This all said, PvD has a rep on this stuff and of course he and the promoter would defend any action they did to move slots around....so until I hear clear reasoning, I think both sides are guilty...only way to be fair.

ATB's ranting vs the promtoer's nicely written responses aren't helpign ATB though.


i agree with this 100%

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Infinitor
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Hamburg, Germany

Interesting! Here is the official statement from the atb management:
Source

Dear friends of the electronic dance music,

My name is Werner Griese, I am the owner and director of the management, booking and event agency Dancefield.

For over 8 years, Dancefield has been a solid and reliable member of the electronic music scene, representing a variety of artists like for example Dr. Motte, Felix Kröcher, Lucca, Mauro Picotto and ATB.
Each weekend, with our worldwide partners, established through high quality, honest and trustworthy work, we schedule artists all over the globe. Furthermore, we have a long-established and trusty partnership with the Love Parade, Nature One, Mayday and the Alpha Festival.

Until today, I had the utmost faith in this electronic scene and especially in the people working within this scene. But sadly, last weekend I had to realize that there are black sheep in this scene who put their money aims above quality and foremost above your rights and wishes to have the promised party with the scheduled and booked artists.

As you all know, this weekend at the Planet Love Festival our artist ATB was scheduled to play a two hour set for you, other artists at the festival were Judge Jules, Marco V, Fedde le Grand and Paul van Dyk. For this performance, a booking contract was made between ATB and Planet Love Festival via Dancefield, in which ATB was contracted to be presented by the festival as the 2nd Headliner. Among other things, this contract specified a fixed time slot for ATB’s 2 hour performance from 22.00 hours - 00.00 hours. ATB was the only artist besides Paul van Dyk to be contracted with a 2 hour performance time.
Surprisingly, this Saturday evening (5th September 2009) I was called at our hotel by the festival shuttle services. I was asked by shuttle services if we could play at another time slot as there were delayed flights of some DJs who consequently wouldn’t make it on time to the festival. Generally, I have absolute understanding for situations like this and I always try to help, but it simply would not have been possible for us to make the proposed 20.45 – 22.00 time slot, as we were still at the hotel. Besides, it was not the contracted 2 hour performance time. And last but not least, I don’t know why the Planet Love promoter didn’t call me himself, he has my mobile number!

What is more, in my 15 years of working as a stage manager at the largest festivals and events in Germany, I have never encountered the situation that a headliner was moved from his contracted time slot to a shorter and earlier performance time. Arriving on the festival site, we tried to talk to the promoters to discuss and clarify the situation and to find a solution. But during the various talks, it became clear that in the run-up to the event the organisers were informed by Paul van Dyk that ATB was not to play directly before him, otherwise he threatened the organizers that he wouldn’t perform at the festival.

I was told this straight to my face and in front of many witnesses, and I have to say I am more than shocked by this!

The organizers told us that they have no possibility of changing this situation and they were very sorry about this. My question as to whether this was common practice and a basic example of how their organisation works, letting certain DJs decide who is to be contracted for the line-up and when they are to perform, was shamefully ignored and not answered.
In the end, the issue was not about changing artists in the line-up due to problems like delayed flights or other problems, but it was only about Paul van Dyk not wanting ATB to perform directly before him until 00.00 hours, because Paul van Dyk did not want this.

But now the promoters have started spreading wrong and false facts which I will not discuss in detail here. Such behaviour can not be tolerated and certainly will not be tolerated by me, as it throws an unfair light onto my artist who is innocently dragged through the dirt.

Sadly, Planet Love did not and still does not have the courage to stand up against someone who tries to dictate to them how to do their job. They are still continuing this behaviour after the event, which saddens me deeply.

Also, I do not understand why it is impossible for Paul van Dyk to have ATB play directly before him. Up to this very day, nobody can explain this to me. Such behaviour in our scene is absolutely intolerable, especially for you, the fans, the lovers of the music, who have paid to party and can expect to be treated respectfully.
Surely, everyone can understand that such a situation is simply not tolerable for us. Although the behaviour of the organizers and promoters put us into a state of shock, we did offer to play from 23.00 – 00.00 hours. But this offer was also refused by them due to the instructions given to them by Paul van Dyk.
You can be assured that this decision of not performing was not easy for us at all, and I feel very sorry for all the fans. Everyone who knows me and ATB is well aware that we always do everything to make a gig possible, but in this case even with our willingness to help and our offers to solve the situation, it was just not possible.
Finally, I want to make clear that at no time during the discussions were there securities present or in the vicinity or even necessary, and that at no time were threats issued by ATB or myself towards the organisers/promoters or their staff.

We want to clearly dissociate ourselves from the allegations made by the promoters/organizers of the Plant Love Festival at this time.
This event will leave a black spot in our memories, because in the end the people who got really hurt are you, the fans. And that surely is something we never ever want to happen!


Yours faithfully

Werner Griese (CEO Dancefield)

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klappa
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I had Pvd - Angel (e-werk remix) as cellphone tone, got rid of it the instant i read this topic before i even entered the thread

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