Registered: Mar 2003
Location: On a spit of sand we call Earth
quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
That's because progressive trance is not progressive. It is not a modifier within a distinctive aesthetic like "acid" or "deep", it is the intellectual extension of a genre within the framework of an existing genre of music. Progressive rock is an extension of rock. Progressive trance is an extension of trance. Progressive house (and it's progeny: Prog) is an extension of house. Progressive breaks is an extension of breaks. Four entirely different music branches that have absolutely nothing to do with each other, despite sharing the same name.
That has got to be the best definition of progressive I have heard yet.
Oct-20-2011 05:05
Redd
decent idiot
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Tønsberg
I like that he keeps banging his head against the wall of idiot.
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Oct-20-2011 05:21
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Progressive breaks is an extension of breaks. Four entirely different music branches that have absolutely nothing to do with each other, despite sharing the same name.
A small modifier here: most of the time, progressive breaks is basically just progressive house with a breakbeat and consequent bassline.
That's because progressive trance is not progressive. It is not a modifier within a distinctive aesthetic like "acid" or "deep", it is the intellectual extension of a genre within the framework of an existing genre of music. Progressive rock is an extension of rock. Progressive trance is an extension of trance. Progressive house (and it's progeny: Prog) is an extension of house. Progressive breaks is an extension of breaks. Four entirely different music branches that have absolutely nothing to do with each other, despite sharing the same name.
ok. since trance doesn't exist without house, progressive trance doesn't exist without progressive house. progressive trance is like a poor man's progressive house.
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No. At the time, this was hard trance.
aka the mid 90s German Trance sound: fast beats and screaming acid with either piano lines or strings or cathedral choruses. It would morph into Nu-NRG (and then hard dance, along with uk hard house and hardstyle) a few years later.
ok.
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I don't care what you think about it, I'm only showing you what it is.
This is probably the most famous progressive trance track:
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gamemaster is the representative of progressive trance? you gotta be kidding me.
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The is my favorite progressive trance track:
Now fuck off.
decent track. better than the previous shit you posted.
progressive trance is usually trash, especially from Anjunabeats. there was a member named Neil, and he sucked Anjuna's cock in the CD Reviews section back in the day.
this is REAL progressive trance right here, I'm pretty sure everyone knows this track already.
Originally posted by Redd
I like that he keeps banging his head against the wall of idiot.
you gotta admit I'm an awesome heel. my ability to get others riled up is second to none.
but how am I an idiot? I swallowed my pride and said that progressive trance exists.
Oct-20-2011 16:46
Ishkur
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC
quote:
Originally posted by Mattinsanity
ok. since trance doesn't exist without house
Why?
Trance didn't come from house.
quote:
Originally posted by Mattinsanity
progressive trance is usually trash, especially from Anjunabeats. there was a member named Neil, and he sucked Anjuna's cock in the CD Reviews section back in the day.
Oh, all of a sudden you're an expert now? Of a genre you insisted didn't exist a few days ago?
Anjunabeats never released any progressive trance. At least, none that I am aware of. It was a euro disney cheese trance label. Progressive trance was pretty much finished by 99, being supplaunted by the bigger, beefier anthem trance and washy dutch supersaws. Hooj was probably the biggest progressive trance label.
Oh, all of a sudden you're an expert now? Of a genre you insisted didn't exist a few days ago?
Anjunabeats never released any progressive trance. At least, none that I am aware of. It was a euro disney cheese trance label. Progressive trance was pretty much finished by 99, being supplaunted by the bigger, beefier anthem trance and washy dutch supersaws. Hooj was probably the biggest progressive trance label.
Anjunabeats at inception was more melodic and uplifting trance, slightly less "hands up in the air" than the late 90s supersaw dutch variant, but virtually the same family.
You're right that progressive trance as it's labelled today has nothing to do with the progressive trance of the 90s.
Originally posted by Ishkur
Trance didn't come from house.
WTF? Trance evolved from acid house? Or?
Oct-21-2011 13:20
Vector A
Your petrochemical arms
Registered: Apr 2011
Location: U.S.
Trance evolved from techno. Pretty much.
Oct-21-2011 13:25
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by Psynon
WTF? Trance evolved from acid house? Or?
More techno and ambient, particularly what the Germans called "kosmische musik" ("space music", basically). There had been a musical movement since the 1970s of Germans making extremely hypnotic and spacey tracks. Not only do some of these tracks sound remarkably like early prototypes of trance, but people like Klaus Schulze even called their albums things like "Trancefer" and "En=Trance". Most of the early German trance sounds like kosmische musik with techno beats attached.
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Originally posted by Ishkur
Anjunabeats never released any progressive trance. At least, none that I am aware of.
It doesn't, but kids today still use the term "progressive" trance to refer to slightly slower, slightly less overblown still candyfloss trance. It infuriates me whenever I click on someone's promo mix advertised as "progressive trance" and get a fistful of supersaws and angelic breakdown stupidity.
