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Originally posted by Sadface The fact that guetta makes music that lots of people like means that he makes good music

Nice conclusion.

Budweiser produces beer that A LOT of people consume... probably the most consumed beer in this country... does that mean it's GOOD quality beer? Go preach Budweiser on a beer enthusiast forum and you'll get a whole lot more fuss than this

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Your own valuation is different from the the intrinsic valuation, of which none can possibly exist save for the enjoyment it brings to its listeners, which is completely dependent on the listeners own context. That's all i'm trying to get at.

I'm rofling at the tracks, but those kids at TAO seem like they're having a great fucking time. Sure, they're young and listening to music they'll probably be bored of in a couple of years, but that doesn't make their experience fake or worthless.

Shit man, even you seemed to think pretty fondly about partying at amnesia a few years back.

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Originally posted by diskodave Nice conclusion. Budweiser produces beer that A LOT of people consume... probably the most consumed beer in this country... does that mean it's GOOD quality beer? Go preach Budweiser on a beer enthusiast forum and you'll get a whole lot more fuss than this

Fucking A man read the rest of my post. If the guy buying a case of budweiser a week thinks its good beer then it's good fucking beer. Who the fuck are we to tell a guy that his taste is wrong. I don't have to enjoy budweiser to appreciate that they are getting lots of people drunk on something better than coors.

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Originally posted by R!CH i mean what the fuck is this...

it's quality music

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Originally posted by Sadface Fucking A man read the rest of my post. If the guy buying a case of budweiser a week thinks its good beer then it's good fucking beer. Who the fuck are we to tell a guy that his taste is wrong. I don't have to enjoy budweiser to appreciate that they are getting lots of people drunk on something better than coors.

because its produced with the formula = quantity > quality.

i could careless how many people like it - its up to them. but i will argue that Budweiser isn't TOP QUALITY beer.

end of story.

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Originally posted by diskodave because its produced with the formula = quantity > quality. end of story.

God forbid someone try to sell cheap beer.

Should we all be drinking 10$/six pack microbrews?

Edit: eh you edited after I quoted you. I agree with you that its not top quality beer just as I agree that guetta is not top quality EDM, but they both have a niche and I'm not going to hate on them for trying to fill it. The simple fact that they're able to satisfy so many people means that they're helping to make them all happier in some small way, and that's a good thing.

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Originally posted by Sadface God forbid someone try to sell cheap beer. Should we all be drinking 10$/six pack microbrews?

I do... and that's because I appreciate beer and it's quality of taste. There is nothing WRONG with buying cheap beer, but that doesn't mean it's top quality .

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Originally posted by Sadface I agree with you that its not top quality beer just as I agree that guetta is not top quality EDM, but they both have a niche and I'm not going to hate on them for trying to fill it. The simple fact that they're able to satisfy so many people means that they're helping to make them all happier in some small way, and that's a good thing.

Perfect. We've come to agreement :P Guetta can play his heart out for whoever likes his music. But I will argue for -- if Guetta sells more records the Guy Gerber (example), then that doesn't make Guetta a better musician.

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Originally posted by Scoops Guetta gets 60-70k jsut for a 3hour gig

all for selling his soul to the devil and remixing a Brittany Spears track... ahh, the beauty of corny, cheesy, and talentless mainstream music.

I can't imagine my self sacrificing quality for a fatter checkbook... or can I?

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Originally posted by Sadface Your own valuation is different from the the intrinsic valuation, of which none can possibly exist save for the enjoyment it brings to its listeners, which is completely dependent on the listeners own context. That's all i'm trying to get at. I'm rofling at the tracks, but those kids at TAO seem like they're having a great fucking time. Sure, they're young and listening to music they'll probably be bored of in a couple of years, but that doesn't make their experience fake or worthless. Shit man, even you seemed to think pretty fondly about partying at amnesia a few years back.

what you're trying to get at is not even what i'm talking about. what i'm talking about is...

1) commercial music is cheesy, cheap, formulaic, mediocre, etc, etc, etc - agree or disagree, this has nothing to do with the fans or their enjoyment
2) the argument that some dj's merit as an artist can be explained through his money or dj mag is fallacious - there is no correlation here

in fact were i poll every long time fan of armin van buuren in regards to when he was a the top of his artistic game, i'd bet a strong majority would vote for some time long before he topped dj mag's chart. same with tiesto and pvd.

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