Why are people even arguing that alcohol isn't bad for you in low doses? What the fuck does that prove about the safety of drinking to the point of inebriation? What a stupid argument.

Also, fuck off Fledz. I've seen M4B contribute to dozens of threads in a contributive, helpful manner. He's holding a contest with his own money to encourage progressive thinking in what's becoming a stale genre and he's taking time to work personally with whoever needs help with the materials.

Even if he is an egotistical jackass he's fucking earned it.

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Originally posted by Kysora Also, fuck off Fledz. I've seen M4B contribute to dozens of threads in a contributive, helpful manner. He's holding a contest with his own money to encourage progressive thinking in what's becoming a stale genre and he's taking time to work personally with whoever needs help with the materials. Even if he is an egotistical jackass he's fucking earned it.

I've got absolutely nothing against his production abilities and he is a good producer with plenty to share. I'm not denying that at all.

His attitude sucks though, especially about things he has absolutely no idea about yet seems to think he's Gods gift to humanity.
I can't sit here while people spread misinformation around.

Sorry if it's hijacking the forum, and I certainly didn't meant to take anything away from people actually producing music and discussing music related topics

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what exactly am I saying ? you said you have no idea how morphine is metabolized, which was pretty critical in my argument. How can you possibly say i'm full of shit when you yourself claim you don't know anything regarding the chemical in question. You are the one being egotistical just being out of school thinking he knows everything. You actually think you learn anything in those 4 years ? You got an intro position at a pharm company which they are most likely teaching you how to sell their drugs. People that work for pharm companies are not really known for being unbiased.

my opinions are formed by research, having a veteran anesthetist in the family, an uncle who is a heart surgeon that also backs up what she says. Show me a study regarding alcohol as a singular compound that alone causes health benefits that cannot be achieved in a more healthy fashion. Again, not association but causation. Then I will gladly shut the fuck up. I've just posted 4 studies showing links to even mild drink to serious health issues.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad you said you have no idea how morphine is metabolized, which was pretty critical in my argument. How can you possibly say i'm full of shit when you yourself claim you don't know anything regarding the chemical in question.

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Originally posted by Fledz I don't work with opioids though I almost did, so I'm not going to pretend I know them inside and out, but I do know...etc etc

I'm sorry what? Care to actually read and quote properly next time?


There you go again, you're condescending and rude about subjects which you don't have enough knowledge in.
I have plenty of relatives who are medical practitioners as well, what's your point? Doesn't that essentially put us on the same footing before you consider my education and experience?
Also I'm not in an intro position and I'm not just out of school. Thank you for jumping to conclusions again.

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You are 23. How much experience could you possibly have ? I've also asked a simple question. Please explain how morphine is metabolized tell me how that is in any way less health than drinking a glass of red wine. Simple question for someone that claims to know so much about the topic. And not to throw an ad hominem at you but you went to school in Australia. I mean Sydney barely made it to the top 100.

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Last edited by Looney4Clooney on Sep-27-2010 at 02:55

Well for one apparently more so than you.
It's metabolised primarily by the liver but as I've already mentioned, long term use can lead to dependency and affect the immune system negatively.

Alcohol is produced daily in the body anyway, so the liver and kidney to a degree are designed to metabolise it without any effort what so ever at an appropriate dosage.
Morphine is also partially created too.
A glass or red wine per day will not lead to dependency though and seems to be more beneficial for the body, not less over a prolonged period of time, especially for the heart and cardiovascular system.

The trouble with alcohol in the world is more to do with how it temporarily affects the brain and impairs judgement, leading to uncharacteristic behaviour (such a aggressiveness) and/or drink driving.

Now, explain once again why alcohol as you so clearly stated, is a poison and such a bane on humanity?

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funny i never see fledz contribute here production-wise.

This thread is a prime example of why I don't like coming here anymore.

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so dont and shut up?

Yeah, I'll leave you social rejects to bicker about nonsense in a thread that was originally something completely different.

Rock the fuck on.

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