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Hooo boy...this thread is still alive and kicking.
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is this not the goal of modern hip hop???
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Ummmm...no.Hip hop has the same problem as trance or any other genre:there are a lot of ppl who are in it for the cash(partly like Eminem and totally like all the brain-dead west side poseurs on MTV),
and others who are in it for the music.I think you know that.
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K i think Eminem is pretty poor as a rapper. Most i get out of him is a chuckle. I used to be into rap before i got into electronic music and there is much better more talented less obscene rappers out there.
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If you're going to diss him as a rapper,then at least give some constructive arguments.You haven't written a single one in your entire post.(And "he swears too much" doesn't cut it,as almost all rappers,good or bad,are foulmouthed.)If you need arguments that are pro his skills as a rapper,read Davinox's post.
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I could freestyle as well as he raps it aint hard to rap when you drop the "F" word every 3 words.
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If you think that's what he's doing,then you seriously need to go over his lyrics thoroughly once,and not just refer to the hits like Without Me and My Name Is.Also,like many have said before me,he does have great skills when it comes to rapping,dl one of his freestyles to see what I'm talking about.If you can freestyle better than that,then you ought to get your ass down to an open mic night,cos you are really talented.
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As for his lyrics being about his life most of that is shit, it's his show buiseness facade, he never murdered his babys momma or any of that shit.
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Another evidence that you haven't read his lyrics thoroughly at all.He has never claimed to have killed the mother of his child,in fact,in Cleanin' Out My Closet,he says that he's glad he didn't have any bullets in his gun the day he pistolwhipped that guy that his ex- wife was talking to,and that got him into serious legal-trouble.
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I think the most hilarious part of it all is he sits bitching about how he has so many fans and they love him for it. he says shit like no i wont sign your autograph call me an asshole im glad. yadda yadda. Is that how to appeal to americans, tell them to fuck off?
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Again,read the whole damn lyrics to the damn tune!!!Later in the same tune,he says that he's thankful for every fan that he's got,but he's sick and tired of all the people stalking him everyday,which is pretty much what this song is about.Of course,he could have been a lot less obscene when saying this,but then it wouldn't have reached that many ppl.
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Seems brittish people do that plenty why dont we buy stuff from them more often??
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Irrelevant bullshit.That's all the typing I'm gonna waste on that statement.
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And his beats are shite compared to the underground rappers as well as his message, in Hip Hop underground is much better it still has the soul....
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Here you for once have a good point.He's not a good producer at all.He recycled Purple Pills for Without Me,and generally sounds so repetitve and boring,it is evident that he has nowhere near the creativity as a producer to make his own beats.If it hadn't been for Dre,his albums would've fallen flat on their noses musically.
Compared to ppl like Jay Dee,Madlib or Timbaland,he's indeed shite.
Like it always has been,there is still a lot of ignorance and prejudice when it comes to Eminem.Yes,there are lot of things that he does when it comes to image,music,behavior etc. that are stupid.But you still can't ignore the fact that he is one of the most skilled MCs out there.It's just too bad that his ego seems to be getting the best of him these days.
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