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Allied Nations
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: MTHELL

Im sorry, but, mixmeister takes the fun out of,,, everything, unless u want a mix cd on the double, its really booooring


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Allied Nations
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: MTHELL

Im sorry, but, mixmeister takes the fun out of,,, everything, unless u want a mix cd on the double, its really booooring


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ill13
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tips-n-tricks

Some tips-n-tricks in no special order. Not rules, just tips

Mixers with/or BPM counters:

Doesn't really matter if you use it or not, it WILL NOT hurt you in the long run. I learned without, but for doing straight 4-on-the-floor (most trance and house) it can get you up to speed quicker. Sure for the first couple of weeks you may depend on it, but once you get the feel of mixing, you'll find you could care less if it is there or not.

Beat Mixing:

Myself, I prefer a rule I made up myself, (least I've never heard anyone else say it -but I am sure others follow it to a degree).

It's called "2-in/2-out"*. All this means is that for the last 2 minutes of a track, I already have the 2nd track beatmatched and playing. Using this as a guideline can lead to extremely smooth mixing which leads to...

Music Selection/Order:

Playing by BPM order is an easy way to start. After you get a feel for that, you'll find that some tracks work better with others regardless of BPM.

Also I use what I call "cycling" all this means is that I either start out with "slow" tracks (when playing hip-hop/Top40, i call these "Chick Tunes"**), then build to high-energy, then back down again. The order of cycling is going to be determined by the previous DJ, if he ended on a high energy track and the floor is banging, just follow suit. If you are opening the floor, start off with the chill tracks so everyone can get thier drinks and chat up thier friends. I aim for half-hour cycles, but hey 15 minutes or 20 minutes, whatever works for ya'.

Personally, I build tracklists by the length of my set. Depending on the style of the music I will be playing, I can roughly estimate how many tracks I will play, then decide what tracks I need to play, then build around those. For example:

1 hour set of trance/house:

Assuming each track is 8 minutes long and following the "2-in/2- out" guideline means that I will use roughly 14 tracks.
(Not 15 as the first track and last track are only mixed on lead in and out).

Now "cycle", based off of your starting positio(opener/follower).


If you seem to be losing the crowd, feel free to switch it up, but chances are very slim that you will lose the crowd with these simple guidelines.


This info is from a dj with a residency in a medium sized nightclub. I started the rez in October 2003, and have, since December 2003 increased the head count and sales for that night by 200% (from 0-20 people to a consistent 250-300). With no promotion from the venue or myself, just word of mouth from customers, to customers. This knowledge comes directly from live, in-the-club, paying gig experience.

The above are only guidelines, not hard-n-fast rules.

But they work.

Consistently.

ill13
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* for hiphop/top40 this rule is changed to "1-in/1-out" as most tracks are only 3-5 minutes long.

** "Chick Tunes": Are the slow tracks you may or may not like, but the girls love. The theory behind this is that.

1] The club opens up, chicks are drinkin' and chillin'.

2] They hear songs they like, they drink some more, then they hit the dancefloor.

3] The guys are drinkin' and chillin', but now there are chicks on the dance floor, but the music sucks so the guys drink more, so they can build up the "liquid courage" to chat up the ladies on the dance floor -and wait for better music.

4] More guys and gals walk into the venue, they see chicks on the dancefloor. The club is therefore bangin'. Chicks and guys buy drinks, the new chicks hit the dancefloor.

5] The music starts to build. Guys hit the floor, New guys that just came in see all the chicks and a few guys on the dancefloor, they drink.

6] Music peaks, everyone is on the floor.

7] The music starts to slow down. Some guys get more drinks. The rest of the guys try to mack the girls.

8] Now do you get it?

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DJ Titus
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: E-Town

If I could go back to when I first started DJ'ing I think the best advise I might have received would have been to learn about music.
In my oppinion you must know the fundamentals. Bars, Measures, Keys, etc.. Whether or not you ever plan to produce this will truely set you apart. You may even consider taking a musical theory class.


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Thirteen
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: United States
Exactly!!

The best DJs in the world, are also producers.

Secondly, learning basic music theory, as well as live sound technics, production mixing, recording, all these things lend themselves to being a better DJ. Its not just about knowing music, but also about how music is mixed (in a production sense, or a recording sense) as well as bars, beats, key, etc. All these things will help you become a better DJ. I read constantly about production, as well as music theory, I also read whatever I can get my hands on that has to do with music. I have been djing for almost 4 years now, with a lot of club nights, and a lot of parties under my belt. I am constantly working at it. Constantly trying to polish my sound, as well as broaden it. Music is my life.

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DJ Titus
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Thirteen,

You nailed it, bro.!


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Allied Nations
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: MTHELL
Thumbs up Re: tips-n-tricks

quote:
Originally posted by ill13

** "Chick Tunes": Are the slow tracks you may or may not like, but the girls love. The theory behind this is that.

1] The club opens up, chicks are drinkin' and chillin'.

2] They hear songs they like, they drink some more, then they hit the dancefloor.

3] The guys are drinkin' and chillin', but now there are chicks on the dance floor, but the music sucks so the guys drink more, so they can build up the "liquid courage" to chat up the ladies on the dance floor -and wait for better music.

4] More guys and gals walk into the venue, they see chicks on the dancefloor. The club is therefore bangin'. Chicks and guys buy drinks, the new chicks hit the dancefloor.

5] The music starts to build. Guys hit the floor, New guys that just came in see all the chicks and a few guys on the dancefloor, they drink.

6] Music peaks, everyone is on the floor.

7] The music starts to slow down. Some guys get more drinks. The rest of the guys try to mack the girls.

8] Now do you get it?



Right on the money


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Diamonite
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Registered: May 2004
Location: VanCity

Hey all, I don't know if this is the right place to ask this but I did look around. I just want to know a few basic things. I have 2 turntables lying around the house and i'm not sure if they are usable. One is a Technics Quartz SL-Q2 Direct Drive turntable and the other is a Technics SL-D202 Direct Drive turntable and both are in great condition. I am also looking to buy a mixer, now I am VERY new at this but am looking to take it quite seriously. I will show a few model numbers and am wondering if you guys can tell me wether or not they are decent and will work for DJ'ing. I am hoping to spin trance and that sort of thing. Numark EM-250, Numark EM-350, Numark DM 1002 MX, Numark DM-3000X, Numark DM1002X, Numark DM1050, Stanton Mixer Sa-3 and a Stanton SMX-201. Also could someone please tell me what a cartridge is for a turntable and what a KAOSS Pad for a mixer. I know this is alot of information at once....but I don't want to start off wrong and I want to be honest and find out what I don't know. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-Diam-


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D Dubya
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Over there

A cartridge is the piece that connects the needle to the tonearm. Using Ortofons as an example, the ortofon cartridge is clamped onto the tonearm by a screw mechanism and then the needle is inserted into the cartridge. A KAOSS pad is just an effects processor which can use different adjustments in order to manipulate the way a record sounds.

And for you newbies, I know this is common sense for a lot of people, but here is the best piece of advice I can give when telling someone how to fine tune beatmatch two records. Once they are almost perfectly matched, do not recue the incoming record. Keep letting it play in your headphones along with the other one and making very small adjustments. By recueing the record you will not be able to make the fine-tuned adjustments that you are able to make by letting the record play continuously.

....And I don't know if I explained that technique very well....


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subtledreamer
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Arcadia, California

http://www.recess.co.uk

NOoOOooOoOo that site doesnt work anymore!
it had some really, really nice information and advice on dj-how-to, especially for beginners!


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Diamonite
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Registered: May 2004
Location: VanCity

Darn, thanks anyways though. Also thanks for letting me know what I didn't


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