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Originally posted by kirbtastic Tony Blair isnt American first of all you fucking moron. Secondly, u need to get off the "I hate America" bandwagon. You keep trying to start these fights, but you never have a good reason. We have not decided to attack North Korea. We are still trying to work out peaceful ways around this. We have been paying North Korea for years to stop their nuclear testing. They have broke treaties they have had with us. That is why we are upset. Lastly, if it does come to war, of course we will bomb them from the air. Most likely we will bomb them from the sea, because they dont really have a navy. The point of a war is to win, not to look tough. I dont want you to post in anymore forums of this nature. You are obviously misinformed and dont have anything of import to add.

well said. North Korea is a threat to World Stability, they are ruled by a tyrannical mad man whos threatening World War III on the world if they dont have their way. Lovely, so we have another Hitler in the making, and no one, I mean no one is taking this situation as seriously as they should. A tyrannical dictatorship with nukes is a very bad thing, period, doubly so for the South Koreans.

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Originally posted by Verona^My well said. North Korea is a threat to World Stability, they are ruled by a tyrannical mad man whos threatening World War III on the world if they dont have their way. Lovely, so we have another Hitler in the making, and no one, I mean no one is taking this situation as seriously as they should. A tyrannical dictatorship with nukes is a very bad thing, period, doubly so for the South Koreans.

and that's exactly how NK and tons of other countries thinks of the US...

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Originally posted by sifntj0r there seems to be an increasing lack of balance for the us vs nk, it's as if everyone hates the us but here, let me even things up FUCK NORTH KOREA FUCK CHINA FUCK RUSSIA GO TEAM USA, TEAM USA, USA, U S A, U MUTHAFUCKIN S A /me goes and watches mighty ducks 2

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Originally posted by Robert and that's exactly how NK and tons of other countries thinks of the US...

*Thinks* knowing is a completely different matter. The difference between a tyrannical dictatorship and it's opposite, is whether or not government troops march into your home and take your family away. North Korea is a tyrannical dictatorship, they can play the diplomatic game all they want to cover up that all they want, but am I fooled. NO!

The world is divided between democratic countries and despotic dictatorships, our leaders & corporations dont seem to care or notice this anyways, all they are interested in is their bottom line, especially when it comes to China, perhaps one of the most ruthless regrimes of the 20th century. Gotta love our most favored nation trading partner.

Which brings me to the morons who want to free Tibet. That's not possible without an all out war with China, and these are the same people who are probably against war in the first place. So free-tibet is meaningless jargon, not backed up with any means to free tibet in the first place. Free Kuwait, well that was a relatively easy task, but nobody seemed to want to free Kuwait, they were mostly opposed to the war or any effort to free Kuwait what so ever. In fact I never even heard the phrase free Kuwait uttered. Instead what moronic tripe did I hear. OIL, that's all I ever freakin hear. Basically the illogic goes like this.

Free Country X... unless they have oil...

None of these oil idiots was complaining when we were bombing the hell out of Yugoslavia. I guess it's ok to bomb innocent civilians in countries that dont have oil, but not so if they do.

Which brings me to the point about tyrannical dictators, you cant argue with them, mere words and negoiations are not effective with these kinds of rulers, force is the only option. Europe tried appeasement in WWII, it didn't work, supposably there was a lesson to be learned from WWII, but everyone these days is flunking that lesson.

Finally to my thoughts on war, I absolutely cant stand most of what the anti-war movement has to say, it's just ludicrious nonsense. However, I will say this, war is a bad thing, seeing half-mangled bodies, tanks rolling over people, people losing legs to land mines. These are the ugly realities of war.

I'm absolutely sick of hearing the phrase no blood for oil. If people are going to sacrifice their lives their should be something gained in the process. As it stands we probably are not going to get any oil out of this, if we were intelligent Vikings, we would plunder their oil reserves while we are there. This probably wont happen. Ultimately we will probably end up installing the General who gased the Kurds as the successor to Saddam Hussein. (who is the leading candidate on the list of people to replace Saddam last I checked) And judging by George Bush's horrendous economic results & huge deficits, I wouldn't be surprised that he will be the one picked.

This could very well be one of the most pointless wars in human history. There are two essential questions one should ask before considering a war.

1) What do we stand to gain from the war? Aquisition of land, resources, prime farming ground, etc.

2) What is the threat posed by the enemy in question.

The answer to 1) Saddam has oil, but will we plunder his reserves to make this war worthwile? I guess I have to wait to see the answer.

The answer to 2) No, Saddam is not a threat, lots of countries have stockpiles of chemical weapons, and we have no evidence of Saddam having a Nuclear Arsenal, or any where near close to Nuclear capability.

So to conclude I fail to see the logic in wasting money on a war to get absolutely nothing in return. Then again with $1 trillion budget deficits over the next 5 years, I fail to understand a lot of things about George Bush. But as Republicans say, deficits are a good thing, lowering taxes raises tax revenue, etc, etc, etc. Maybe they should say, going to war causes population growth. It would fit in with Republican line of logic.

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Originally posted by displaced omg, this is one of the more stupid things i've read recently. there is not going to be months to carpet bomb a country to the stone ages like in vietnam. if the us does strike, its going to have at most 30 minute window to destroy ALL of its intended targets, which btw is impossible even with the technological advances the us enjoys. because if this isn't achieved within that timeframe, there will be a mile-wide crater in what used to be seoul. ever heard of scud launchers? the us couldn't seek and destroy a single one in the first gulf war even though they stand out like a green thumb in miles and miles of sand. its an impossible task to try destroy every single one in a country size of south carolina in half-an-hour, because all it takes is one to start a chain of events i can't even start to imagine. that is why this is going to be resolved diplomatically... i hope...

I'm optimistic that it will be resolved in a diplomatic fashion. If it's not, then the peeps living in San Fran, Seatle, and LA better watch the skies....

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Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis What i don't understand about the damn US is with the Iraq issue...i mean this issue just came out of the blue about the mass destruction weapons, i mean why didn't US argue with them when September 11 happened or when they were searching for OSAMA. And also where is the proff it was OSAMA...it was the bloody Jews that took the towers down, not the muslims. It's not a coincidence that muslims actually died in the towers but all jews took the day off that day.

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