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Originally posted by TheDemon Iam glad to see people all over the world, even in the usa realize that war does nothing but bring problems. War is war, and it will never solve a damn fucking thing.

Someone should tell Iraq and N. Korea this...

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Originally posted by occrider I too would like to see some proof on this. If this is indeed true though, does anybody else find this to be just a little bit ridiculous to the point of unbelievable? Ok maybe if the US was one of a hundred nations charged ... maybe. But the US is the ONLY nation? I can just picture the ICJ prosecutors on this one. Prosecutor 1: So what do we have on the list? Prosecutor 2: Well ... let's see, we have genocide in Rwanda ... starvation in Somalia ... atrocities and civil rights violations in Iraq, N. Korea, China ... genocide in Bosnia ... annnndddd the US for trying to be the world's policeman. Prosecutor 1: That's HORRIFFIC! Forget about everything else! I want ALL of our assets concentrated on the US. If we have only one conviction over the course of our entire existence, I wanna nail those barbarians.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...s&pagenumber=5:)
Have fun! Its long...137 pages long!

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Originally posted by sifntj0r i hope the UN passes a resolution to blow the shit outta the iraqi military and government then the anti-war protesters can go back to saving the oceans or whatever it was they were doing before they found something better to further their own agenda's

Really ? And hopefully you go and save the oceans and that whatever that you are talking about, because is the place where you f*cking live, and your sons will live. A place that will also be f*cking gone if you dont go and save it. The statement you've done sounds so arrogant .. jeeeez..

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Originally posted by Cyrus King http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...s&pagenumber=5:) Have fun! Its long...137 pages long!

I'm going to go ahead and agree with what Izzy said in the other thread that the US isn't the only state ... especially since after just paging through the dockets I saw some cases on genocide in serbia, border and transborder armed actions between Nicaragua and honduras and Costa Rica, US against Tehran with regards to embassy hostage taking, etc. etc. etc. Amazingly enough there's also a legality of use of force case against Belgium, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, UK, Spain, and the US by Yugoslavia.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...s&pagenumber=5:) Have fun! Its long...137 pages long!

oops i have to apologize... i completely forgot you had brought that up, my bad.

btw i see how many nations including the US have been charged with such acts (as occrider pointed out). was the US ever convicted of committing these acts?

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I was determined to read it and point out fatal flaws, but I got to page 10 and started seeing like this: I couldn't take it anymore ... damn you Cyrus King you win this one for now!

Out of curiosity, did you ever manage to make it through the entire thing?

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Originally posted by occrider I was determined to read it and point out fatal flaws, but I got to page 10 and started seeing like this: I couldn't take it anymore ... damn you Cyrus King you win this one for now! Out of curiosity, did you ever manage to make it through the entire thing?

LOL... i actually read almost 90 % of it then my eyeballs began to combust..... But im sure its in there somewhere....

I do respect you guys for not refuting this as rubbish.

In the end, i can say that i trust Chomsky when he says that the US is the only one charged... but i do respect your decision if you dont trust him.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King LOL... i actually read almost 90 % of it then my eyeballs began to combust..... But im sure its in there somewhere.... I do respect you guys for not refuting this as rubbish. In the end, i can say that i trust Chomsky when he says that the US is the only one charged... but i do respect your decision if you dont trust him.

Well I'll admit it does make a valid point. The US did do some pretty sick shit during the Cold War and I'm not proud of some of the things we did. However misguided, I just hope that they were done with honorable intentions in preventing the cold war from escalating into a hot one. One thing I don't understand is why the US would not at least show up to defend ourselves ... it's like we were too lazy (ok I'll say it before one of you guys) or too guilty to defend ourselves. As for HOW guilty the US is in some of the charges, such as the kidnap and murder of civilians, I guess that's something we'll never know for sure. At any rate, I stick to what I believe in but there's no way in hell I would refute something like this as rubbish. I'm anal when it comes to sources but this is as credible as they come. However your last statement is correct. I don't really trust Chomsky and I especially don't place much faith in the statement that the US is the only nation convicted of terrorism (it's even debatable that this court case constitutes an act of terorrism).

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Originally posted by sifntj0r i hope the UN passes a resolution to blow the shit outta the iraqi military and government then the anti-war protesters can go back to saving the oceans or whatever it was they were doing before they found something better to further their own agenda's

Sorry but that just sounds too friggin' ignorant

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Originally posted by Dj_Irish Sorry but that just sounds too friggin' ignorant

well if the anti-war protesters can play the ignorance game why can't us poor pro-war ppl?

statement 1 on the most watched morning news/current affairs show:
protester: "the fact that 500,000 australians marched in protest shows that the majority of australians dont support a war against iraq"


since when does 1/40th of the population represent a majority?


ahhh i got plenty up me sleeve

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Originally posted by sifntj0r well if the anti-war protesters can play the ignorance game why can't us poor pro-war ppl? statement 1 on the most watched morning news/current affairs show: protester: "the fact that 500,000 australians marched in protest shows that the majority of australians dont support a war against iraq" since when does 1/40th of the population represent a majority? ahhh i got plenty up me sleeve

Haha, I have to agree, that's a pretty stupid way to put it.
Although I think the amount of people who showed up are impressive.