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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Newsflash, France didn't call for a veto, simply because the US didn't even bring the matter to the security council, therefore there was nothing France could put a veto on.

France threatened to veto any motion that the US/UK put foward (whatever it might say)

In effect it's worse than a veto because it's being used as a political tool. Something that doesn't promote democracy.

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NEWSFLASH: On Friday (2 days before the summit at the Azores) Chirac openly said that he would veto ANY new resolution proposed by the US and Britian, NO MATTER WHAT THE CICUMSTANCES. This is a fact. Why should the US be bothered to go through this procedure then? France is hypocirtical. France amongst other countires fucked this whole process of disarmament up. Totally. You cannot pass a resolution which basically says "this is your last chance, if u dont comply face consequences" and then, when there is a clear breach, step back and say "lets wait and see". fuck that

It is different thing to say something and to actually do it. And don't blame it all on france, Russia and China would have most probably vetoed it also, and US would hardly get 9/16 votes from the security council. But regardless of that, doesn't anybody see it's odd that the US is breaching UN resolutions as a response to the Iraqi breach of a UN resolution?

And btw, disarmament process isn't a process that is finished in 2 days. It takes at least several months to disarm a country. Besides, I don't see how France screwed up weapons inspections when it asked, together with Germany to triple the amount of the inspectors in Iraq. And guess which country put a veto on that decision. Why, it was the US, surprise, surprise. So much for who screwed up the inspections. Also a reminder, the first inspections which ended in 1998 were canceled by Bill Clinton. That is, if weapons of which the country should be disarmed of exist, which has not been proven.

PS, go arguing on the political forum about matters like this, that's why it exist, right?

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Tell this little boy that he is safe from terror...then i will be against ANY war on terrorism or countries with WMD....He lost his dad in 9.11

k heres a (hopefully) closing statement

its obvious why many are supportive of the war...its cos they are americans and of course one would be patriotic and support ur country..i wouldnt blame u for being patriotic....

we all have our views on this...however its not like things will change by us ponintlessly arguing it over here...

now that the war has started, all we can do is hope it will end VERY soon and that it wasnt a just a waste of resources...

i cant remember who assumed but no im not a muslim. im not even arab. i was born and raised in the middle east and have seen both sides to the stories..

and NO i dont think Hussein is a saint..but IMO Bush is as evil as him..

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee ..but IMO Bush is as evil as him..

proove it

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Originally posted by tiesto14 proove it

justify the sudden desperate need for regime change


and i said that it was my opinion....now if im not allowed to have my own opinion, tell me where the hell is the so called freedom

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 It is different thing to say something and to actually do it. And don't blame it all on france, Russia and China would have most probably vetoed it also, and US would hardly get 9/16 votes from the security council. But regardless of that, doesn't anybody see it's odd that the US is breaching UN resolutions as a response to the Iraqi breach of a UN resolution? And btw, disarmament process isn't a process that is finished in 2 days. It takes at least several months to disarm a country. Besides, I don't see how France screwed up weapons inspections when it asked, together with Germany to triple the amount of the inspectors in Iraq. And guess which country put a veto on that decision. Why, it was the US, surprise, surprise. So much for who screwed up the inspections. Also a reminder, the first inspections which ended in 1998 were canceled by Bill Clinton. That is, if weapons of which the country should be disarmed of exist, which has not been proven. PS, go arguing on the political forum about matters like this, that's why it exist, right?

Ding ding ding.

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee justify the sudden desperate need for regime change and i said that it was my opinion....now if im not allowed to have my own opinion, tell me where the hell is the so called freedom

an opinion is one thing..to spit out absurd crap is another...in no way is Bush as evil as Hussein...Bush does not kill his own people, does not test chemical and bilogical weapons on innocent people, does not set up rapes of women, does not put people in plastic shredders feet first to scream to their deaths and the list goes on and on...how can u honestly say that he is as evil as Hussein.....be real...dont say he is jus cus u dont liek him...or maybe ur unaware of what the word evil means.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 an opinion is one thing..to spit out absurd crap is another...in no way is Bush as evil as Hussein...Bush does not kill his own people, does not test chemical and bilogical weapons on innocent people, does not set up rapes of women, does not put people in plastic shredders feet first to scream to their deaths and the list goes on and on...how can u honestly say that he is as evil as Hussein.....be real...dont say he is jus cus u dont liek him...or maybe ur unaware of what the word evil means.

oh im so sorry i dont know english to know the meaning of evil.

lets see...throughout this thread, i have been told to support with facts...i would like supporting evidence to show that he has done the above mentioned in the past 10 years

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee oh im so sorry i dont know english to know the meaning of evil. lets see...throughout this thread, i have been told to support with facts...i would like supporting evidence to show that he has done the above mentioned in the past 10 years

LOL even Renegade knows he has that stuff...go look it up....

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Originally posted by tiesto14 LOL even Renegade knows he has that stuff...go look it up....

no..u look it up and prove it...


dont ask me for proof if u cant provide any urself

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