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Originally posted by Dmatrox this is off topic as it relates to this thread, but i found a link to this website: http://www.iraqbodycount.net/ in someones signature, not necessary to name who since that is irrelavent anyways. I was just wondering why that person wouldnt be mentioning these either: http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/ir...ties/index.html ...since these are our "brothers" here. Come on, if you want to link to iraqi casualties, you have to put a link the coalition forces that have died in this war. Peace to the boys

My heart goes out to the soliders that have died, and will die in the war. However, i don't feel that i need to advertise their deaths, as CNN already does a great job of this.

and more importantly, the US and it's allies are the agressors here, this is not a war of self defense, those soldiers are thousands of miles from home of their own volition. This does not make their deaths any less tragic, but, it does make it their own willing choice.

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Its not a choice for soldiers. Soliders sign their lives away to the military, to their country. They have to carry out their orders so its not a willing choice of the soldiers, they are pawns in the President's hands. And I mean this for any country.

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Originally posted by Prototrance Count me in. War protesting = a bunch of tree hugging hippy crap!!! Our lads/lasses are risking their lives for us, SUPPORT THEM!!!!!!

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I'm in da alliance

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Originally posted by JohnSmith Here is the solution to tiesto14, the nonviolent hippie way: shutup tiesto14

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

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too bad our little tiesto is reading this and dying of rage to answer but he can't

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Originally posted by fastmp3 too bad our little tiesto is reading this and dying of rage to answer but he can't

why not? banneded? hahhaha


I always hated how he posted thoe crappy assed tunes in the ID section. three hundred thousand threads of crappy music.

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Originally posted by USMC_Greg why not? banneded? hahhaha I always hated how he posted thoe crappy assed tunes in the ID section. three hundred thousand threads of crappy music.

Lol. Did he get banned??????????????

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Heh... I really love how some people on this forum expect others to take them seriously when they speak with the intelligence of 4th graders... you know who you are... or maybe not, if your ego's are so inflated. This is not directed at either pro or anti war folks specifically.

And now for my opinion... theres a difference between supporting the troops and supporting the war... simply supporting the troops means rooting for everyone in the allied arms services who are fighting this war regardless of whether or not they want to, or whether or not you believe in the war. Personally, I support the troops, but definately not the war. If Bush wants to go and kick Saddam out, give out some aid, then get on out of there (without raping them of their oil supplies), then I could agree with that morally, even tho it would still be illegial since the U.S. Constitution prohibits pre-emptive war. But you know... if Bush REALLY wanted to help poor people, why is he spending american lives on iraq? He could help more people and save more lives by taking the several-hundred BILLION dollars that this war will cost, and using it to help set up hospitials and food and everything else in many of the starving countries throughout the world. And where was Bush's sympathy for all the mass genocides in Africa? Or the things Mao did China? Or his concern about NKorea's nukes? Funny how you NEVER hear about these things on CNN or Fox or whatnot.

I recal hearing on NPR some interviews with iraqi's, whos general opinion was that if Bush wanted to come kick saddam out they would welcome him, but if U.S. expected to occupy their country and set up their own government and whatnot, then they had another thing coming. Does anyone remember in Bush's speech last week, when he gave iraqi militants a list of things not to do or have their asses kicked? First thing: dont destroy oil wells! Second, Dont use Weapons of Mass Destruction! Glad he has his priorities straight! Someone earlier in the thread already commented on Ashcrofts comment on the Iraqi oil (look back a few pages). And lets not forget the U.S's previous attempts at installing democracies. Chile? Guatemala? Vietnam? Iran? Iraq (previously)?.

Its funny how Clinton gets impeached for getting head in the oval office, but Bush gets away with wiping his ass with the Constitution. Not only is a pre-emptive war ILLEGIAL, the power to declare war lies only in congress, who bent over and handed over all that power to bush alone.

And all this War shit on TV is so ridiculous, it borders on comical. Every network plays the same hogwash 24/7, and all the same stories at the same time.. its like the Running Man or Fahrenheight 451 or something like that, your pretty much watching the war live on tv. They were even interviewing a pentagon official who said that they didnt get their initial damage reports from bombings from pilots or intelligence, but CNN! The media has people so desensitized, they dont realize that innocent iraqi citizens are effected drastically by all of this. Everyone gets worked up over reports of a lone allied soldier dying, but they probably barely flinch at a rogue report of iraqi's killed in a misguided bomb. Theyre people too, just like you or me, or the soldiers fighting over there. A lot of folks have seemed to have forgotton that...

But none of that really matters now, since we are already into it... if Bush just kicks out saddam, drops some aid, and then pulls out, then I can live with that, and Id be happy for the iraqi people, even tho Id still strongly disagree to the american (and british, austrailian, ect) lives risked and lost, and believe that he could have done a LOT more to help the helpless people throughout the world than just going after Iraq. I mean lets face it, Saddam is a shithead but hes not the only travesty going on in the world. I want to see Bush do more than just Iraq. Lets just hope that this war is over with soon with minimal deaths.

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Originally posted by Prototrance Count me in. War protesting = a bunch of tree hugging hippy crap!!! Our lads/lasses are risking their lives for us, SUPPORT THEM!!!!!!

my long lost twin???? you should check some of my posts in the Debate Forum, where i've posted pretty much the same statements as the ones above!

wierd. haha.

i'm in. as for now, ive got my flags

hehe

>JM<