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whiskers
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Registered: Sep 2001
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Re: Oooopsies

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Originally posted by Magnetonium
Not abusing the black holes (you wish), I meant to say we as humans abuse stuff ..... like nature, technology .... and whoever gets their hands on time travel will have the ability to use it in harmful ways, dont you think .....



i know what you meant. some people are abusing our posts here too.



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Originally posted by Trancention
I don't think you could go back in time and kill yourself or anyone or destroy anyone/anything because then it would have ceased to exist in the future therefore you would have never had the drive to go back in time and kill/destroy anyone/anything.



that is one of them time paradoxes that we can't answer until we try them out.



why do you people always need to have everything explained to you? i repeat, even the most genius physicists can't prove this stuff. so you can believe it or not, but don't dismiss it just because you don't have proof.


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TOR
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'time' does not exist. it's just a word that man invented, like 'love'.. time travel is not possible.


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whiskers
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quote:
Originally posted by tor8024
'time' does not exist. it's just a word that man invented, like 'love'.. time travel is not possible.



so you are saying that love doesn't exist either?


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TOR
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quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
so you are saying that love doesn't exist either?


as a physical entity it doesn't, no. it is an abstract notion..


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DrUg_Tit0
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quote:
Originally posted by tor8024
'time' does not exist. it's just a word that man invented, like 'love'.. time travel is not possible.


Again I say, a notion does not have to be a material object in order to exist.


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DigiNut
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quote:
Originally posted by tor8024
as a physical entity it doesn't, no. it is an abstract notion..

So I suppose you'd also say that gravity, electromagnetism, and sound don't exist either?

I can't understand what this guy's getting at... time is a measurable quantity!


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TOR
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what i'm saying is that 'time' is something man invented. gravity, magnetism, etc. are physical phenoma that already existed before man measured and defined them. 'time' is an abstract notion man created himself. the comparison with love was not that clear, sorry for that..

what i mean is that phisically it is not possible to travel through time. you can't go back ten years and meet your younger self. that's because it isn't a physical phenomenon, the universe's existance is not based on the notion 'time'.


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http://www.johntitor.com

hope you guys can appreciate this.


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quote:
Originally posted by tor8024
what i'm saying is that 'time' is something man invented. gravity, magnetism, etc. are physical phenoma that already existed before man measured and defined them. 'time' is an abstract notion man created himself. the comparison with love was not that clear, sorry for that..

what i mean is that phisically it is not possible to travel through time. you can't go back ten years and meet your younger self. that's because it isn't a physical phenomenon, the universe's existance is not based on the notion 'time'.


Um, no, you're totally wrong about this. Time is not an abstract notion invented by men, time does exist and time is a physical phenomenon. Unlike magnetism or gravity which are forces, time is a dimension. Not quite the same as other 3 dimensions, as is quite obvious, but a dimension nevertheless. Let's assume a universe with (x,y,z,t) coordinates, the first 3 being spatial coordinates, while the last one being a temporal coordinate. Now put two objects in that universe, one with coordinates (x1,y1,z1,t1) and the other one with coordinates (x1,y1,z1,t2). If time was non existant, those two objects would overlap. Now make a little experiment. Put an apple in your hand. Then drop it and put an orange in your hand. Do apple and orange overlap? My guess is no. Yet they had exactly the same spatial coordinates, while the temporal coordinate was different. Therefore time is an existand dimension, as two objects with same spatial coordinates and a different temporal coordinate do not overlap. There, I hope that explained the obvious.

We are all traveling through time, only we don't have any impact on the direction of the travel. We can, however, have a mild impact on the speed of that travel.


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whiskers
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quote:
Originally posted by Abject Silver
http://www.johntitor.com

hope you guys can appreciate this.



well, all i can say is that it's rather disturbing. one possibility is that the guy was really schizophrenic and imagined a new reality for himself. i doubt someone would intentionally come up with such stuff and carry it on for months.


even if it is all fake, it's still chilling to read that, because fake or not fake, it is POSSIBLE.


btw, what's your take on this, abject silver?


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whiskers
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holy crabs, fake or not, this guy stirred up some major shit storms on the internet. way to go.


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Psygnosis
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Sydney

OMG!!! Thread of the Century, i love this to bits...

i was reading that John Titor site, and i don't know if it's fake or not but most things he states seem very true indeed, he claims after the 2004 Olympic Games there will be no more games, i think we can base a truth or lie on this. I guess we have to wait and see if there will be any more games...if there aren't, be scared.

EDIT: He also states that the Arabs never use Weapons Of Mass Destruction on US but themselves...In some point this is very true. The Arabs have indeed used it against themselves and other Arab Countries, but never on a Western Country, i might be wrong though but i'm starting to believe this John Titor guy even more...now i know what to believe and what not to believe but you never know what technological secrets we have.


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