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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
It was Grossman's BRILLIANT passing drive that put the game away for the Bears, don't forget that. His rating in the playoffs has been on par with Manning's as well if you care to LOOK AT THE STATS. Obviously Manning is miles better, but Grossman is not shit.
As I'm looking at the stats
Manning played against much better defenses this postseason (ranked 12th, 1st and 2nd in average number of points allowed this year). Grossman had to face the 19th and the 13th ranked defense this year. So it wouldn't surprise too many when they have comparable QB ratings when you consider skill to be a factor.
as an aside: I still can't believe this rex grossman was the same guy who was an absolute stud when he played for the Florida Gators. I'd love for him to show chitown that he can blossom into that form one of these days
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Jan-23-2007 06:16
Dj Smitty20
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he has the ability to throw fucking laser bombs though man, you have to admit that. I can't remember the last time the Bears had a QB with this much potential.
But the difference is making the throws when they count and so far, Rex is so so in the regular season. It's not totally proven yet that Grossman can't make the big play in the BIG GAME when it counts because, in the last two games, he has come up with some impressive ones.
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Jan-23-2007 06:20
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All he has to do is not turn the ball over and come up with a few big throws. Which he did last game. The defense/special teams combination is that good. Look at Baltimore and Trent Dilfer. Would you call him even a decent QB? Not really but he didn't turn the ball over. Bears have enough weapons to win the game as long as Grossman doesn't play like he did against Minnesota for example. What I mean is that he isn't gonna be the reason Chicago wins. No way.
11 for 26 is still horrible no matter which way you rose color it. Yeah he makes a good throw but inevitably is followed by one batted down and one crazily overthrown. I watched the game, it wasn't pretty most of the time. There is 25 other QB's that could win with the rest of the team.
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Jan-23-2007 06:28
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well I agree with you there. I think the main reasons for Chicago's potential victory will be obviously the defense forcing turnovers and preventing good field position. After that, the running game was awesome on Sunday although I don't expect Thomas Jones to have another 125 yard game. Also, Robbie Gould is pretty much automatic on the FGs. But if Grossman goes, say, 15 for 25, 250 yards, 2 Tds, 0 interceptions, I won't be surprised.
The Colts defense yesterday wasn't that impressive so there could be some holes. I'm worried about Chicago's pass coverage though. They're very hot and cold.
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Jan-23-2007 06:34
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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
he has the ability to throw fucking laser bombs though man, you have to admit that. I can't remember the last time the Bears had a QB with this much potential.
if he ever reaches his potential, he'll throw machine like lasers to everyone, be a top notch fantasy QB, and sell popcorn on the stands and save babies from burning buildings all at the same time
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Jan-23-2007 12:01
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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
But if Grossman goes, say, 15 for 25, 250 yards, 2 Tds, 0 interceptions, I won't be surprised
you're nuts. they'll win if he goes 10 of 25 for 118 yrds 0 Tds and 0 int/fmb
end of story.
Jan-23-2007 14:37
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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
He has only played 25 NFL games in his entire life and he's already got his team to the Super Bowl.
His defence got his team to the Superbowl, grossman's tried his hardest to make sure his team didnt get there, lucky for you it didnt work though. The chaps is a rubbish QB. A fucking apple has better decision making ability then Grossman.
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Jan-23-2007 15:21
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anyway, kiffin as head coach? thats just fucking brilliant.
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Jan-23-2007 15:23
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Originally posted by Michael19
His defence got his team to the Superbowl, grossman's tried his hardest to make sure his team didnt get there, lucky for you it didnt work though. The chaps is a rubbish QB. A fucking apple has better decision making ability then Grossman.
When was the last time that a Chicago QB had the ability to throw 4 brilliant passes into the endzone to put an NFC championship game away or complete two laser passes in the divisional game to set up the game tying and later winning FG? Kordell Stewart, Cade McNown and Kyle Orton certainly never would have done that in Grossman's position had they been there.
You guys (and most of the media) are way too hard on this guy. He's only 25 and has played less than 1.5 seasons as a starting QB. Let's see how he does in the next few seasons before writing him off.
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Jan-24-2007 00:02
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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
When was the last time that a Chicago QB had the ability to throw 4 brilliant passes into the endzone to put an NFC championship game away or complete two laser passes in the divisional game to set up the game tying and later winning FG? Kordell Stewart, Cade McNown and Kyle Orton certainly never would have done that in Grossman's position had they been there.
You guys (and most of the media) are way too hard on this guy. He's only 25 and has played less than 1.5 seasons as a starting QB. Let's see how he does in the next few seasons before writing him off.
nah Grossman sucks. Yeah hes been better than some qb's chicago has had, but he still sucks. imo most of the good plays & games hes had was pure luck. But its not like we ever had a good qb anyways. In the 22 years ive been a bears fan only 1 years stands out for me where a qb did great. But thats bears football i guess. having a good running game & defence, but never any qb's or recievers.
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Jan-24-2007 00:59
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Jim McMahon was fucking overrated if you ask me and the so called brilliant draft pick, Jim Harbaugh? Blah. Imagine if the Bears had somebody like Joe Montana or John Elway in the 80s? Nobody would have won a Superbowl for ten fucking years.
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Jan-24-2007 01:04
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Jim McMahon was fucking overrated if you ask me
Yep i always thought that about him too. McMahon never was healthy long enough to even throw for 3000 yards. Fucking guy was a pussy, but i loved his attitude.