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Originally posted by tathi There's not much difference between Iran supplying Hezbollahs weapons and the US supplying the IDFs weapons mate, i was watching a documentary last night showing the complete and utter carnage inflicted in civilian areas of Beirut and Southern Lebanon that were "carpet bombed" by the IDF, the stench of rotting bodies everywhere, a man with 17 people of his own family kiled in one day. The crimes against humanity inflicted on Lebanese civilians by IDF were more brutal than Hezbollah could ever dream of inflicting on Israeli civilians, and fortunately there are very prominent people making cases for War Crimes against Israel right now (forgot what his name unfortunately).

And do we see, publically, the leader of Isreal calling for Iran to be wiped off the map? No.
Funding known terrorists? No.

It's the things that come out of his mouth that bother the rest of the world.
Here's a real charmer...

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"If you want to have good relations with the Iranian people in the future, you should acknowledge the right and the might of the Iranian people, and you should bow and surrender to the might of the Iranian people. If you do not accept this, the Iranian people will force you to bow and surrender." - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iranian News Channel (IRINN) on August 15, 2006

You're asking the world to hand a box of matches to an egotistical pyromaniac.
I'm not against Iran or it's people, it's their leader that's got a screw loose. Until Ahmadinejad is a little more reasonable to deal with (which doesn't look like any time soon) the Iranians suffer.

Why nuclear?
Why not hydro-electric? It only makes up 7% of their total energy capacity. Or wind? Of which they appear to have nothing.
I'll tell you why nuclear. Because with nuclear technology behind them their political agenda to have the world bow before them becomes a reality; their people are the excuse and will still suffer for it.

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Yeah mang, i've already said many times that i think Ahmadinejad is a sociopathic lunatic

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Originally posted by Purple Iran has reached a saturation point... with no additional power..they cannot prgress further... they need alternate sourse of energy.. or else it will stall their economy.

Bullshit.

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Originally posted by tathi Yeah mang, i've already said many times that i think Ahmadinejad is a sociopathic lunatic

Sorry tathi, I know I quoted you but it was really directed a Burple...

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Originally posted by Shakka Bullshit.

Even if your right. What right do aliens have to dictate the direction of a country??

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Originally posted by sasslife Even if your right. What right do aliens have to dictate the direction of a country??

I agree with you 100%. I'm just pointing out that Purple is spouting out complete unadulterated bullshit. They are NOT starving for nuclear energy. Their economic progression is not being held up because of nuclear deprivation. They are sitting on one of the top 5 oil reserves in the known world--there is simply no logic to what Purple said.

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Originally posted by Shakka I agree with you 100%. I'm just pointing out that Purple is spouting out complete unadulterated bullshit. They are NOT starving for nuclear energy. Their economic progression is not being held up because of nuclear deprivation. They are sitting on one of the top 5 oil reserves in the known world--there is simply no logic to what Purple said.

But that's not of that much use with sanctions (over the years) and stuff imposed on them, not to mention instability that we had quite a bit involvement in (like installing the Shah and overthrowing Mossadeq, who was democratically elected). You have to take that into account too.

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Iran is highly dependent on oil for their energy needs. They want to get rid of their dependence on oil at present.

Iran has one of world's largest oil resources but still they are dependant on outside world for their oil suplly need. Because they dont have large scale oil distillation technology. They are dependent on countries who import oil from them and than export it back to Iran in refined form.

They want an alternate long term reliable source of energy, shift from oil to nuclear sources.

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Originally posted by Purple They want an alternate long term reliable source of energy, shift from oil to nuclear sources.

Well, they'd probably have a lot more luck getting access to that nuclear energy if they didn't have a nut--who has publicly stated his desire to acquire a nuclear weapon and desire to eradicate Israel-- running the show. Iran is a signatory on the NNPT, ya know.

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Originally posted by Purple Iran has one of world's largest oil resources but still they are dependant on outside world for their oil suplly need. Because they dont have large scale oil distillation technology. They are dependent on countries who import oil from them and than export it back to Iran in refined form.

Ya i have a friend whos a Chemical Engineer & he was telling me on how in his line of work people feel bad for Iran. Because they are sitting on a ton of oil, but they dont have the refinerys to covert it to fuel.

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Originally posted by Shakka --who has publicly stated his desire to acquire a nuclear weapon and desire to eradicate Israel--

Who threatened whom first? Who started this? US.. Bush labelled three countries 'Axis of Evils' out of nowhere and said world should get rid of them... so by your logic; shoudn't we be stripping US of its nukes first?

Last edited by Purple on Aug-24-2006 at 17:32