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Originally posted by George Smiley Any chance of you answering my questions and not skirting round the issue? I thought you were being sarcastic! Maybe you're not as smart as I thought! Not quite sure why you are dodging the question (ok so I guess cos it will go against your beliefs) but... What problems will Iran face if it launches nukes at Israel... An answer please

Sorry, did forget that even if the answer is quite obvious.

We all go to hell in a handbasket essentially...

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r You mean like their ongoing proxy war with Israel? Or their continuing non-compliance with the U.N.? Or going to rallies... Yea, they've been quite the angel.

I agree Iran is no angel. Thier president has just fueled the fire with some of his crazy statements. Thier govt is very prejudice & opressing to alot of people. But... its obviously what the majority of people want since he was voted in democratically. The States say they are all for democracy but the last time they had influence over Iran they installed a military dictator. And even though Iran is no angel, compared to the States they have been behaving great. A heck of alot more civlilians have died because of the States & a heck of alot more families have been destroyed because of the States.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Sorry, did forget that even if the answer is quite obvious. We all go to hell in a handbasket essentially...

You're still avoiding the question - Iran would be wiped off the face of the earth if it attempted to do the same to Israel so why would Iran do it?

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Originally posted by jonSun I agree Iran is no angel. Thier president has just fueled the fire with some of his crazy statements. Thier govt is very prejudice & opressing to alot of people. But... its obviously what the majority of people want since he was voted in democratically. The States say they are all for democracy but the last time they had influence over Iran they installed a military dictator. And even though Iran is no angel, compared to the States they have been behaving great. A heck of alot more civlilians have died because of the States & a heck of alot more families have been destroyed because of the States.

Don't get me wrong, I may come across as a US yes-man but I don't necessarily agree with everything they do; especially when it comes to us (Canada).
Happily we now have a government that can at least compromise with them unlike our last government which didn't appear to give a rats ass.

As far as the States being the brunt of everyone's whoes, I'd hardly be blaming just them; that's too easy

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Originally posted by George Smiley You're still avoiding the question - Iran would be wiped off the face of the earth if it attempted to do the same to Israel so why would Iran do it?

I agree. There is no reason why they would attack Israel. If Iran did launch a nuke at Israel, Irans nieghbors would also be wiped off the planet along with Iran. Even if Iran decided to launch conventional non nuclear missles or bomb Israel, they would still be wiped off the planet or conquered by force. They know that & all thier neighbors know it too.

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Originally posted by George Smiley You're still avoiding the question - Iran would be wiped off the face of the earth if it attempted to do the same to Israel so why would Iran do it?

What would they care?
They would all become martyrs in their holy Jihad anyways right?

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Originally posted by jonSun I agree. There is no reason why they would attack Israel. If Iran did launch a nuke at Israel, Irans nieghbors would also be wiped off the planet along with Iran. Even if Iran decided to launch conventional non nuclear missles or bomb Israel, they would still be wiped off the planet or conquered by force. They know that & all thier neighbors know it too.

But their actions and words certainly don't support your arguement.
Their continued support of Hizbullah, constant U.N. infractions and speaches of impending doom certainly doesn't sit well with the rest of the world.
You're alright with it?

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r What would they care? They would all become martyrs in their holy Jihad anyways right?

Regardless of how much you may want to believe the contrary, Iranians aren't hell bend on suicide.

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Originally posted by jonSun I agree. There is no reason why they would attack Israel. If Iran did launch a nuke at Israel, Irans nieghbors would also be wiped off the planet along with Iran.

I guess that is somewhat dependent on where the strike is. Nuclear fallout would be widespread, but the initial blast radius might not be as massive as your statement would imply. Does anyone have any good data on the geographic consequences of a nuke? I think the real end-game theory comes into play when you start talking about multiple nukes being lobbed around in the region. That would probably kill a few million in a heartbeat.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Regardless of how much you may want to believe the contrary, Iranians aren't hell bend on suicide.

It ain't so much your every day Iranians that are the issue. I think that much has been conveyed ad nauseum.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r What would they care? They would all become martyrs in their holy Jihad anyways right?

I thought their aim was to spread Islam around the world?

That's what I am constantly told on here.

They're not gonna be able to do that while they are toast are they?

And what exactly is the difference between the religious fundamentalists in the White House (and half of America) and those in Iran???

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r But their actions and words certainly don't support your arguement. Their continued support of Hizbullah, constant U.N. infractions and speaches of impending doom certainly doesn't sit well with the rest of the world. You're alright with it?

The PLO came out with similar rhetoric during the 70s/80s...now look at them...