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Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 hardcore..let's be fair. you're not exactly "not talkin shit".

well lets see who started this whole thing??it wasnt me

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Originally posted by TuanAnh213 about many americans being disgustingly ignorant...blame it on our biased media...whatever the media tells the average american that average american is gonna believe it no matter what...its sickening i know

at one stage 2/3rds of the american public thought saddam hussein was behind the 911 attacks, this is one of my favourite stats (source is bbc by the way)
It displays how the media controls us and confuses the shit out of the public so much. People only know what you tell them. We can laugh about it now, but at the time it probably made sense some(how i dont know).

The media is a circus.

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Originally posted by TuanAnh213 lucky class? the fuck you smoking? im just another average middle class member of society...i live in a two story house, we got three cars...there are countless millions of other fellow american citizens living like that...its not like 90 percent of the american population are lower class poverty stricken people like in mexico...every country has its poor, middle class and rich people...for you to generalize on america and calling it a horrible place to live shows your true ignorance

only about half the people are poor in mexico, and those in poverty are mostly due to US corporations and government deals with the Mexican government itself

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Originally posted by ProDiGaL at one stage 2/3rds of the american public thought saddam hussein was behind the 911 attacks, this is one of my favourite stats (source is bbc by the way)

Hey man even till this day some of them still wanna believe that somehow Saddam was behind the 9/11!!!

and yes media does screw peoples minds alot,it effects those who are ignorant and simple minded,and who belive just about anything they hear from tv and such.

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Some more facts which baffle the average human being....

before the 2nd Gulf war started, there was a high percentage of americans against it.
After the 1st bomb fell, the tides turned and most of the nation supported the war???

In australia, 70% or so were against the war as well, but our dickhead prime minister still sent our soldiers in.... Talk about democracy?

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Originally posted by rizen only about half the people are poor in mexico, and those in poverty are mostly due to US corporations and government deals with the Mexican government itself

only half? last time i checked 50 percent of a population being in poverty is ALOT

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Originally posted by ProDiGaL at one stage 2/3rds of the american public thought saddam hussein was behind the 911 attacks, this is one of my favourite stats (source is bbc by the way) It displays how the media controls us and confuses the shit out of the public so much. People only know what you tell them. We can laugh about it now, but at the time it probably made sense some(how i dont know). The media is a circus.

There was a poll in which more than 50% of americans said they believed they've found wmd's in Iraq.

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Originally posted by DJAhmet Some more facts which baffle the average human being.... before the 2nd Gulf war started, there was a high percentage of americans against it. After the 1st bomb fell, the tides turned and most of the nation supported the war??? In australia, 70% or so were against the war as well, but our dickhead prime minister still sent our soldiers in.... Talk about democracy?

Incorrect statistics, I'm not sure what time period you were referring to but I posted stats on Australian polls a long time ago and the population in support was something like 53 or 54%.

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Originally posted by occrider Incorrect statistics, I'm not sure what time period you were referring to but I posted stats on Australian polls a long time ago and the population in support was something like 53 or 54%.

That's true. I remember reading that also.
And in Britain, too, the split was about even and I believe the number of anti-war people was ~52%, pro-war ~48%.

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Originally posted by TuanAnh213 only half? last time i checked 50 percent of a population being in poverty is ALOT

yes its alot, but no where close to the 90% you said.

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Originally posted by rizen no. im sure tons of people would rather live in the other industrial countries that have national health care, like canada.

National Healthcare is often very poor when compared to the healthcare in the US. There are many more hopsitals in Canada than in the US, that I would not step foot in because of poor surgical and other types of care. Also, they are generaly a lot more overcrowded than US hospitals.

I have lived and have had hospital stays in both countries. Just my opinion and the opinion of many of my peers (from a New England college that we all went to) I guess.

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Originally posted by rizen and those in poverty are mostly due to US corporations and government deals with the Mexican government itself

that is just blatantly not true

I have arranged and overseen many such "deals" (deals is not really the right word for it, many times they are just charity projects brought on by the US companies).