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Summer21
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Toronto - London UK

Hi Dj-Fuq

Originally posted by U:
"Well, u said it urself. U ABUSED it. What ur saying doesnt really make sense. U are the 1 at fault here, not the drug."

Um why are you so defensive? If I didntmake sense, let me explain... before I took it had I known E was going to f.uck me up I NEEDLESS to say, never would have done it. Where is the line between so called "abuse" and taking in "moderation"? Whos to say? there is a very thin line because everyone is different. I will never condone drugs and I am hoping that someone will read something I wrote and be turned off of E and never take it. Do you go around telling people its ok to take it? I never will I don't believe in that

Posted By U:
"Whos doing that? I myself have posted links that explain the damage e does."

I have never mentioned your name or anyone elses...so I dunno where ur going with that. I am glad u have posted positive links!

U again:
"U too? For ur info, i havnt taken e in 2 years."

GREAT! I am glad u haven't taken it in 2 years. Again I dont know who u are and I didn't take note of your posts or your name, I just read and posted my thoughts.

U one last time:
"People who arent prepared to use drugs responsibly should not be using them at all."

Now that comment takes the cake! I must say! I am not an 'expert' with drugs, I have never smoked weed before, I have never tried anything other than E, So how the hell can u imply that I wasnt prepared to use drugs responsibly????!!! LOL What an OXYMORON using drugs reposibly.

Anyhow I just wanted to share my expereince...didnt want to frazzle u

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UWM
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Here

quote:
Originally posted by djSlain
are u really ready to give up your right to legally party over a pill?


If stopping taking pills would mean all clubs would stay open, obviously I wouldn't do it.

quote:
just a q, what keeps u from doing x when u party sober?


Hrmm let me think - there's a good DJ playing and I want to enjoy the music?

quote:
while u are sober, are u longing to be ON x?


It makes the experience more enjoyable, I'll be perfectly honest. But I'm fully content to do it sober.

quote:
but would it ever change ur mind if somehow u, or a friend was giving a really bad pill?


Absolutely - fortunately it has never happened to me / someone I know. We are all very responsible about what we get, where it comes from, and safe behavior while on it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Summer21
Um why are you so defensive?

Im only telling u that it was ur fault. Which is true. U were the 1 choosing to take it too much, it wasnt physically forcing its way into ur stomach, was it?

quote:
If I didntmake sense, let me explain... before I took it had I known E was going to f.uck me up I NEEDLESS to say, never would have done it. Where is the line between so called "abuse" and taking in "moderation"?

If ur taking it too much and its negatively affecting ur life, thats abuse.
quote:
Whos to say? there is a very thin line because everyone is different. I will never condone drugs and I am hoping that someone will read something I wrote and be turned off of E and never take it. Do you go around telling people its ok to take it?

It is ok to take it. Its not ok to abuse the fuck out of it, like u did.
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I never will I don't believe in that

Take some resposibility for ur own actions.
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Posted By U:
"Whos doing that? I myself have posted links that explain the damage e does."

I have never mentioned your name or anyone elses...so I dunno where ur going with that. I am glad u have posted positive links!

Well, when u replied i think i was the only person pointing out the truth from the bs, so i assumed it was directed at me.
quote:
U again:
"U too? For ur info, i havnt taken e in 2 years."

GREAT! I am glad u haven't taken it in 2 years. Again I dont know who u are and I didn't take note of your posts or your name, I just read and posted my thoughts.

Well, maybe u should have. Go and read the last 4 or so pages. If u actually listen to what i said i think u might change ur mind about things.
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U one last time:
"People who arent prepared to use drugs responsibly should not be using them at all."

Now that comment takes the cake! I must say! I am not an 'expert' with drugs, I have never smoked weed before, I have never tried anything other than E, So how the hell can u imply that I wasnt prepared to use drugs responsibly????!!! LOL What an OXYMORON using drugs reposibly.

What the fuck are u talking about? Clearly ur not an expert, as u say. U werent using it responsibly. U admitted it urself by saying u abused it.
U acted stupid and fucked urself up. Now ur blaming the drug when IT WAS UR OWN FAULT.

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quote:
Originally posted by UWM
Absolutely - fortunately it has never happened to me / someone I know.

What??

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quote:
Originally posted by djSlain
btw, u made a good point about the guy seizing on the floor. i know u say that u party safe, but would it ever change ur mind if somehow u, or a friend was giving a really bad pill?

Me?
Why would that change my mind? That would not mean that mdma is bad, because i know enough about it to know that it wasnt the mdma. What it would mean is he was given a bad pill because he couldnt buy a pure 1 because it is illegal.
It would make me want legalisation probably more than i do now. If thats possible.

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Summer21
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Toronto - London UK

Dj-Fuq

I'm not even going to quote or anything like that. I guess what I am struggling with is that, no matter how I say it... I am saying I had a bad experience, and if someone wants to take it I will not tell them to. so If i am being responsible NOW and saying that people shouldn't do it if they are debating wether to or not.... what are you so against? Anyone in their right mind that was mature enough, would never hype up or defend a drug. If u personally want to take it go ahead, who cares.I see nothing wrong in deterring drugs. Nothing personal Dj-Fuq. Drugs are not vitamins, they are bad and there is nothing wrong with saying that either.
I would seriously hope that all of this energy and time u are takign in defending drugs could be applied somewhere else. It puzzles me. Take care

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UWM
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Here

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
What??


I was commenting that I was lucky that neither I nor any of my friends have gotten bad pills or had a shite experience while on mdma.

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quote:
Originally posted by UWM
I was commenting that I was lucky that neither I nor any of my friends have gotten bad pills or had a shite experience while on mdma.

Well, he asked would it change ur mind about e in general (i think thats what he meant)

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UWM
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
Well, he asked would it change ur mind about e in general (i think thats what he meant)


I thought he was asking on if I would stop if me or one of my friends got messed up bad from a pill.

Because I would.

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quote:
Originally posted by Summer21
I am saying I had a bad experience, and if someone wants to take it I will not tell them to. so If i am being responsible NOW and saying that people shouldn't do it if they are debating wether to or not.... what are you so against?

How hard is this to understand? Why dont u tell them to use it if they want to, but not to take TOO MUCH like u did?
Whats the problem with that? Please explain to me all the bad things that will happen if they use mdma properly.
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Anyone in their right mind that was mature enough, would never hype up or defend a drug.

Ur talking shite. How much maturity does it take to understand that ur problems with e came from u taking it far too much? Ur obviously not mature enough. If u didnt take it too much, u would not have had those problems. Thats what this boils down to. It was ur own fucking fault.
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If u personally want to take it go ahead, who cares.I see nothing wrong in deterring drugs. Nothing personal Dj-Fuq. Drugs are not vitamins, they are bad and there is nothing wrong with saying that either.

Apart from the fact that it isnt true.
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I would seriously hope that all of this energy and time u are takign in defending drugs could be applied somewhere else. It puzzles me. Take care

I will.

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quote:
Originally posted by UWM
I thought he was asking on if I would stop if me or one of my friends got messed up bad from a pill.

Because I would.

Fair enough.

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djSlain
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Registered: May 2001
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wouldn't it be safe to stop before something serious happens? I mean, i know everyone in their lives take risks, but is it really worth the wheelchair, a system failure, or hell, just seeing someone you know on the floor spazzing out...
my sister has had seizures in front of me, and i tell u, watching someone without control of their own body is absolutely horrifying. the worst part is that it's not only happened once, but several times in front of me. watching a friend go through that would take an absolutely toll on me


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