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speedracer_mec
DeepHouse & Progressive



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Greece, where the good progressive comes from.

in all honesty


avb=trash
tiesto=trashier
pvd=trashiest



its all about the new sleeper hit producers coming into the scene

i said it once ill say it again



out with the old ...in with the new


only reason i listen to oakenfold...is because of his traklists on sunday nites...other than that his mixing is terrible

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sandstorm03
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Registered: Feb 2003
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thanks for your amazing insight.


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UWM
mandroid



Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Here

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
That made me think of something.

If all the active tranceaddict board members were stranded on a desert island a la Lord of the Flies, I wonder what groups would form? I bet we would factionalize based on certain DJ allegiances, first and foremost, with genre preferences secondary.

The next question, of course, would be what groups come to violence first (assuming no one set up a rule of law). Which would eventually come to dominate? How many would be killed in the process?

Okay, that enough out of me.



Obviously the prog house/breaks group would win because we, after all, are the most intelligent of the bunch.



kidding, of course

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UWM
mandroid



Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Here

quote:
Originally posted by InfiniteSquare
HEY, At least he's better than PvD


I used to think that until I saw PvD this weekend - His technical and musical abilities put Armin to shame.

If you want me to go into depth and argue why I believe that, I will.

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UWM
mandroid



Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Here

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
The bad thing about Armin is that his style has been rotting into McProg Kraft in order to appeal to the American mp3 kiddies.


What the fuck?

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Sand Leaper
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Oslo, Norway

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
Blah blah 'boring prog drivel' ...



Who are the elitists ?


An elitist looks down on people for their tastes and thinks he is better than them. That's not the case here is it?


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trancestar_uk
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Desert Island

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
I used to think that until I saw PvD this weekend - His technical and musical abilities put Armin to shame.

If you want me to go into depth and argue why I believe that, I will.


totally, anyone who thinks armin is a better dj that pvd has no clue whatsoever. pvd can get any tune and make it sound amazing in a set his sets make u wanna dance, whereas armins are just boring, slow and predictable. armin is nowhere near as techinically good as pvd.


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trancestar_uk
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Desert Island

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
The bad thing about Armin is that his style has been rotting into McProg Kraft in order to appeal to the American mp3 kiddies.


so true, dance music is newer to the usa than anywhere in europe, yet all the americans are suddenly experts, but hey, they are the best at everything rite? or so they think


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fineart
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Budapest

hey man

you're absolutely right. armin rulez
but pvd, tiesto and corsten are good also.

peace,


quote:
Originally posted by Fresh Prince
I think you got it all wrong, Armin is on his way up to be #1 DJ, maybe not this year, but next for sure.
You say he plays cheese, well it's the tunes most people in the clubs around the world like, so if that's cheese fuck it just look at anywhere he goes, people know the tunes he plays because they listen to ASOT and his sets, and not because they're played on local radio.
Personally I don't like what happens to #1 DJs, they get bashed all the time, heck even now when he's #3 you start this thread I fear to think what people will write when he's #1 but it's his dream so be it.
...
His label and tunes he's signing and promoting on ASOT is great opportunity for new talents to make a career for themselves.
And finally, Armin himself said "trance sound" is changing, so you can't expect him to play same old tunes he played 5 years ago, they were brilliant sure, but we 'heard that' and now you gotta move on.
Just look at how many non-vocal tunes he plays during his gigs, if that's not trance I don't know what is.
I think all of you negative posting people are just too bored as guy before me wrote.
All respect to Armin and his work, whether he becomes #1 or not he's a true trance DJ and isn't ashamed to admit it in today's world when trance music is still making a break for itself around the world.


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fineart
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Budapest

hey

I guess it is not all about business. If you consider that lost of people cannot afford to buy a even a vinyl (and vinyl player for that), you can understand what I mean. Lots of DJs in the world can thank mp3 and Internet for being so popular.
So it is about music. But you're right : GO LISTEN WHATEVER YOU WANT !

music is life,

quote:
Originally posted by Luke
We are just spoiled. And for everyone who says Armin is self promoting his label on ASOT, WELL YA OF COURSE HE IS. He is making a living producing tracks, djing, and running a label. We would all do the same. In the end it is up to the public to buy the records, if tehy are poor, they wotn sell. Its business.


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Pio
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: NYC-New Haven- San Juan-Amsterdam / PRTA #1

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
What the fuck?



That quote was made within the context of the cheese + fast food analogies.

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moogwai
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: 013

Yeah right... I do had a laugh on most of your reactions...
Always flaming the populair dj's of the moment... If you don't like, just find another favourite dj.. No one forces you to listen or visit Armin van Buuren.


quote:
Originally posted by Robert

As for Armin, I don't think it's quite fair to judge too much on what you hear on ASOT. The idea of ASOT is to play new (unreleased) stuff, which is what he does. If the tracks aren't what they used to be anymore, that's not really up to him then is it? He just plays what's new...
Not liking his own stuff (anymore) is up to you. Some people enjoy it, others don't...


Of course my opinion is biased as Armada has brainwashed me and I must step in once something "bad" has been said about Armada or Armin...



100% true, and I'm not brainwashed by Armada

Your just spoiled with ASOT, and maybe some of you see him live once in a while (or not) and judge him just about a track which he has played 2 months ago in ASOT and think it's old now...


quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
7 hours of exactly the same style.....great job armin...


ROFL... i'm just wondering in what world you live in???

If I could call one set diverse, than it would the Ocean Diva one. I was there and it was an amazing set full of progressive, uplifting and techy oriented trance. And besides this some tunez were very fresh, some were 0,5-1,5 years old but still great and some classics like Carte Blanche and Cloud Walking... What do you want more???



quote:
Originally posted by trancestar_uk
totally, anyone who thinks armin is a better dj that pvd has no clue whatsoever.


TOR has already given the answer about Armin...

quote:
Originally posted by TOR
IMO his track selection, his transitions (harmonically impeccable), his interaction with the crowd..

in short: the energy he releases on to the dancefloor


i don't think he's better or anything, that's not important. music is not about "better" and "worse". he's just my favourite of the bunch



It's a combination of factors which makes him so good. Any idiot dj could play some tunez, but that's far from enough! And I dunno why, but I've never liked PvD, but I'm not going to flame him...


quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
I thought it was rather crap too because of the vocals, until I heard it live at the club (spun by Armin ironically) and noticed how effective it was on the dancefloor. Even prog elitists like Fr0st in this forum said the track was great. Why? Because it is a dancefloor stormer, unlike most of the stuff Armin produces.


That's why people who've never heard Love Comes Again in a club should be quite here...You can't judge a tune only if you hear it once as mp3...

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