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Originally posted by mndeg how would he not make it a NON money making opportunity? donating all the money to some charity?

yes, or putting the tracks/set up on his website as a FREE, legal download
sander k did, holden it did to great success, it would have worked and got a huge amount of people on the tiesto website

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he could of made it more of a money making opportunity by playing cheese songs

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Originally posted by mike_stefan69 yes, or putting the tracks/set up on his website as a FREE, legal download sander k did, holden it did to great success, it would have worked and got a huge amount of people on the tiesto website

Even though i try my best these past 2 years to stay away from defending Tiesto on here i will answer this.

Sander and Holden do it because they have no where near the success or popularity as DJ Tiesto...so by giving stuff for free or giving "exclusive" things on their site they draw more people.

DJ Tiesto on the other hand has probally the biggest fan base, rivaling Oakenfolds old one. He does not need to draw fans for free sets, t-shirts, misc crap because they come anyway. Tiesto does not need more people on his site or more people at his shows, unliek Sander, Holden and countless other DJs.

People seldom realize that DJ's are also business men. This is their livley hood, their proffesion the thing that puts food on their table. I keep hearing people talk about Tiesto going for the money and he is greedy blah blah blah. It is so patently absurd for people to say this. I do not see these same people cry like little girls that Bill Gates is not giving away free copies Microsoft Office or Warren Buffet giving free finacial advice because they are worth billions, yet you bitch and moan about not getting free crap from a man who does his best to please you at live shows and by producing, a man who can not even hold a candle to Gates or Buffets dollar.

Tiesto is doing the right thing...he should reap the benefits of this whole DJ thing for as long as he can. Remember these DJs are their own bosses, they do not get retirement plan or health benefits unless they pay for them themselves and they surley won't be DJing to the age of 65.

So next time you bitch like a little girl about Tiesto being greedy and not throwing you a free tshirt remember this is his JOB and he would not go to your job and ask for something free simply because you are a fan. Wake up people, it is a tough world out there and money sadly makes it go round...maybe when you grow up and move from mommy and daddys house you will find this out and look back and say "damn Tiesto was a smart man cashing in while he could".

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Originally posted by tiesto14 Even though i try my best these past 2 years to stay away from defending Tiesto on here i will answer this. Sander and Holden do it because they have no where near the success or popularity as DJ Tiesto...so by giving stuff for free or giving "exclusive" things on their site they draw more people. DJ Tiesto on the other hand has probally the biggest fan base, rivaling Oakenfolds old one. He does not need to draw fans for free sets, t-shirts, misc crap because they come anyway. Tiesto does not need more people on his site or more people at his shows, unliek Sander, Holden and countless other DJs. People seldom realize that DJ's are also business men. This is their livley hood, their proffesion the thing that puts food on their table. I keep hearing people talk about Tiesto going for the money and he is greedy blah blah blah. It is so patently absurd for people to say this. I do not see these same people cry like little girls that Bill Gates is not giving away free copies Microsoft Office or Warren Buffet giving free finacial advice because they are worth billions, yet you bitch and moan about not getting free crap from a man who does his best to please you at live shows and by producing, a man who can not even hold a candle to Gates or Buffets dollar. Tiesto is doing the right thing...he should reap the benefits of this whole DJ thing for as long as he can. Remember these DJs are their own bosses, they do not get retirement plan or health benefits unless they pay for them themselves and they surley won't be DJing to the age of 65. So next time you bitch like a little girl about Tiesto being greedy and not throwing you a free tshirt remember this is his JOB and he would not go to your job and ask for something free simply because you are a fan. Wake up people, it is a tough world out there and money sadly makes it go round...maybe when you grow up and move from mommy and daddys house you will find this out and look back and say "damn Tiesto was a smart man cashing in while he could".

Well-fucking-said.

Oh, and the only reason Holden's remixes of that Britney Spears tune were put on his site was because he didn't have the rights to release them. Thus, he put them up for free.

Tiësto has all of the rights to the tunes he's releasing, thus he will give them the full release.

Here's a question to the person who said Tijs should be like Holden and Sander... If you had the rights to release a tune, would you do to it so it could be on vinyl and shared to DJs other than those who got a promo copy, or would you release it for free, in an audio format that wont sound too good in a club?

They did say that the CD would be released at a lower price than usual also. I don't know how much lower yet, so won't comment, but it would be nice if it were alot cheaper since it'd be giving something back to the fans for their support, in a way.

Ima buy the vinyl either way, if it's good

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Originally posted by isoterra They did say that the CD would be released at a lower price than usual also. I don't know how much lower yet, so won't comment, but it would be nice if it were alot cheaper since it'd be giving something back to the fans for their support, in a way. Ima buy the vinyl either way, if it's good

Yep. I think a couple people forgot to read in a few pages to see it mentioned at a lower price than the average CD.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 Even though i try my best these past 2 years to stay away from defending Tiesto on here i will answer this. Sander and Holden do it because they have no where near the success or popularity as DJ Tiesto...so by giving stuff for free or giving "exclusive" things on their site they draw more people. DJ Tiesto on the other hand has probally the biggest fan base, rivaling Oakenfolds old one. He does not need to draw fans for free sets, t-shirts, misc crap because they come anyway. Tiesto does not need more people on his site or more people at his shows, unliek Sander, Holden and countless other DJs. People seldom realize that DJ's are also business men. This is their livley hood, their proffesion the thing that puts food on their table. I keep hearing people talk about Tiesto going for the money and he is greedy blah blah blah. It is so patently absurd for people to say this. I do not see these same people cry like little girls that Bill Gates is not giving away free copies Microsoft Office or Warren Buffet giving free finacial advice because they are worth billions, yet you bitch and moan about not getting free crap from a man who does his best to please you at live shows and by producing, a man who can not even hold a candle to Gates or Buffets dollar. Tiesto is doing the right thing...he should reap the benefits of this whole DJ thing for as long as he can. Remember these DJs are their own bosses, they do not get retirement plan or health benefits unless they pay for them themselves and they surley won't be DJing to the age of 65. So next time you bitch like a little girl about Tiesto being greedy and not throwing you a free tshirt remember this is his JOB and he would not go to your job and ask for something free simply because you are a fan. Wake up people, it is a tough world out there and money sadly makes it go round...maybe when you grow up and move from mommy and daddys house you will find this out and look back and say "damn Tiesto was a smart man cashing in while he could".

WORD on that man.
Could not have said it any better!

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Yeah, yeah, you're angry, we get it with less whipping. Most of them will be out on CD singles anyway.

sorry if my whips pissed you off, but i really hate the route tiësto is taking atm! only releasing full lenght stuff on vinyl while many others are supporting cd more and more. and i very much doubt that most of the tunes will be released as singles, if any. i just want full legal versions of the tracks on cd, just like i want full unedited legal versions of nyana and adagio off just be, but tiësto has decided to take the way of many other dumbasses and release full stuff on vinyl only.

tiësto's releasing policy:
tiësto's tracks:


so, yeah i'm pissed off!

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Listened to the CD, some of the tracks are nice, most of them are "piew-piew-piew"-trance songs

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Just listened to the promo and IMO it's a bit better than Just Be. Some of his new tracks sound preety good, nothing outstanding just typical Tiesto 2004 style. The opening was decent with some trancy breaks, but the ending track wasn't all that great. But overall It was better then what I had expected it to be. 7/10

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Originally posted by tiesto14 Even though i try my best these past 2 years to stay away from defending Tiesto on here i will answer this. Sander and Holden do it because they have no where near the success or popularity as DJ Tiesto...so by giving stuff for free or giving "exclusive" things on their site they draw more people. DJ Tiesto on the other hand has probally the biggest fan base, rivaling Oakenfolds old one. He does not need to draw fans for free sets, t-shirts, misc crap because they come anyway. Tiesto does not need more people on his site or more people at his shows, unliek Sander, Holden and countless other DJs. People seldom realize that DJ's are also business men. This is their livley hood, their proffesion the thing that puts food on their table. I keep hearing people talk about Tiesto going for the money and he is greedy blah blah blah. It is so patently absurd for people to say this. I do not see these same people cry like little girls that Bill Gates is not giving away free copies Microsoft Office or Warren Buffet giving free finacial advice because they are worth billions, yet you bitch and moan about not getting free crap from a man who does his best to please you at live shows and by producing, a man who can not even hold a candle to Gates or Buffets dollar. Tiesto is doing the right thing...he should reap the benefits of this whole DJ thing for as long as he can. Remember these DJs are their own bosses, they do not get retirement plan or health benefits unless they pay for them themselves and they surley won't be DJing to the age of 65. So next time you bitch like a little girl about Tiesto being greedy and not throwing you a free tshirt remember this is his JOB and he would not go to your job and ask for something free simply because you are a fan. Wake up people, it is a tough world out there and money sadly makes it go round...maybe when you grow up and move from mommy and daddys house you will find this out and look back and say "damn Tiesto was a smart man cashing in while he could".

Hell yeah, couldnt say it any better. This board needs more people like you who can write with reason.

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