Labor wont have a majority in the Senate or even close to it. There is a chance the coalition could get a majority in the senate this term which would mean that they can pass anything they want at all with no debate or review in the Senate. This would be an absolute nightmare.

If labor wins the lower house then they will need democrat and/or green support in the upper house.

So vote for the Greens above the line in the Senate, your preference will go to the Democrats and then Labor.

If you want to vote Democrat or Labor in the senate do it below the line because for some fucked up reason they have Family First preferenced which is a right wing Christian party which will support Howard.

And no, labor wont be fucking increasing the GST, what are you smoking, they werent even in favour of the GST when it was implemented.

ive decided to go against myself and vote labor.

ive changed so many times in the last few months.

ive gone and heard peter garret speak and his reasons for joining labor. that didnt totally convince me.

i think its more the environmental policies that labor "are going to employ". fuckit, im a HUGE greenie, well almost and it is really important to me. especially now that howard isnt stopping the destruction of the place i grew up in and love - tasmania.

health, education and environment all need more protection and to be re-thought with new policies put in place. liberals are not going to do this. not enough to change whats fucked.

i guess labor will essentially give me, as a student, as someone that cares about my country - especially the extremely important biodiversity and wilderness, as someone concerned about the availability of health care - a better deal.

latham doesnt excite me. but what can u do. i wish beazley was back.

haha, yer ive changed my tune somewhat - but ive looked at both sides of the arguement. listened to people come and speak at uni, read the literature put out by groups by wilderness society (which im part of) and conservation foundation and come to this. im not going to change again before tommorow.

here's to a new era! (hopefully).


oh and , err, TRANCE IS CHEESE!

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Originally posted by Romp Labor wont have a majority in the Senate or even close to it. There is a chance the coalition could get a majority in the senate this term which would mean that they can pass anything they want at all with no debate or review in the Senate. This would be an absolute nightmare. If labor wins the lower house then they will need democrat and/or green support in the upper house. So vote for the Greens above the line in the Senate, your preference will go to the Democrats and then Labor. If you want to vote Democrat or Labor in the senate do it below the line because for some fucked up reason they have Family First preferenced which is a right wing Christian party which will support Howard. And no, labor wont be fucking increasing the GST, what are you smoking, they werent even in favour of the GST when it was implemented.

AHhAHA its naivety like that which is gonna see us paying gst in excess of 15%


Tell me romp... what does a federal government need to be able to increase the gst??!?!!?


What is every state government after!!?!?!?!

How man labor state governments do we have right now.

Put 2 and 2 together... what do you get?!?!?!


For a smart guy like yourself... i didnt expect i would read a comment like "Labor never wanted the GST." They didnt want to implement it but i tell you what, they are sure in favor of reaping the benefits from it. The state governments are loving it

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Originally posted by nicknack typical labor voter, you can't even spell the party's name your voting for

Labour = blue collar so i'm allowed to mispell it, i make up for my lack of intelligence in muscle and a hard working attitude.

muscle?

ure just a fatty jules. u know it!

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Originally posted by stamper Labour = blue collar so i'm allowed to mispell it, i make up for my lack of intelligence in muscle and a hard working attitude.

hahah

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Originally posted by Paulie ...but people wanna talk about not letting the governemnt have a mandate in the senate... what if labor wins the election, it will have a mandate in both houses AND will be on side with nearly all of the state governments.

well, maybe the Liberals should have a good look at themselves if they want to avoid this.. they're all insufferable wankers, with utterly crap policies to boot... (wait, do they have any policies, all I hear is "strong economy" and Labour sucks?!)

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Originally posted by Paulie AHhAHA its naivety like that which is gonna see us paying gst in excess of 15% Tell me romp... what does a federal government need to be able to increase the gst??!?!!? What is every state government after!!?!?!?! How man labor state governments do we have right now. Put 2 and 2 together... what do you get?!?!?! For a smart guy like yourself... i didnt expect i would read a comment like "Labor never wanted the GST." They didnt want to implement it but i tell you what, they are sure in favor of reaping the benefits from it. The state governments are loving it

If they did it they would probably be committing electoral suicide, in any case both sides of politics are currently cutting taxes, not raising them.

And when asked about it Latham said:

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"The answer is 'No, no, and no again - no way in the world'. "The reality is the Labor Party opposed the GST in the first place and there's no way in the world we'll be lifting the rate. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.a...55E1702,00.html

So I think thats a pretty emphatic answer. I have no idea why this idea would even come up, my guess is that its another scare tactic from the coalition. Because no one who knows anything about politics would think labor would increase the GST, something they are ideologically opposed to because its a regressive tax. If they were going to increase any tax it would be income tax.

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Originally posted by Romp If they did it they would probably be committing electoral suicide, in any case both sides of politics are currently cutting taxes, not raising them. And when asked about it Latham said: So I think thats a pretty emphatic answer. I have no idea why this idea would even come up, my guess is that its another scare tactic from the coalition. Because no one who knows anything about politics would think labor would increase the GST, something they are ideologically opposed to because its a regressive tax. If they were going to increase any tax it would be income tax.

If labour was so idealogically opposed to GST, why not come out and say they will remove the gst? Before accusing me of just reading some tabloid paper, and listening to some scare tactics... how bout you just stop itterating party line and start giving us YOUR opinion.

I just wish that when we have to pay higher gst, the people who voted for them pay for my share as well The gst will increase make no mistake, and the best time for it to increase is when the federal governments has all the state governments on it side.


John Howard commited electoral suicide last election as well with the GST, and got voted in. The australian public has a funny way of voting.

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"There's no way that a GST will ever be part of our policy. Never ever. It's dead. It was killed by the voters in the last election." - John Howard

"Any suggestion that I left the door open is absolute nonsense. I didn't. I never will. The last election killed the GST. It's not part of our policy and it won't be part of our policy at any time in the future. " John Howard

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