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Originally posted by St_Andrew but why? anything including "tradition" is not a valid argument really, men and women should be treated equally, we are living in 2005, not 1905!!!

"Equal" in value... but that doesn't mean we're the same.

It's the duty of the man to pay.


Why don't "men" here live up to their responsibility?

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf "Equal" in value... but that doesn't mean we're the same. It's the duty of the man to pay. Why don't "men" here live up to their responsibility?

its a duty, because we made it a duty! and that was back in the days when a man was supposed to take care of his wife financially, we passed that stage now, women work too nowadays!!! a man and a women's role in society today really hasnt anything to do with supporting anyone financially (with the odd exception!).

Its a nice thing to pay for someone elses supper/coffe/whatever, and this is for everyone that is special (friends, dates, mom etc). BUT IS SHOULD NOT BE EXCPECTED!!! and THE FAVOR SHOULD BE RETURNED!!

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Originally posted by Cal Hells yeah! my two bits - what makes a date a "date" is not eating expensive food together, its about spending time together. So many people are convinced that going out for dinner is what you should do for a date it makes me laugh.

agreed - "Dinner-time" was considered a very social and engaging activity in earlier times - some cultures (eg French) still - view it inherently so - now with the advent of Kraft Dinner....fast food......obsession with social life...we have relagated this MOST important aspect of our daily lives (eating/sustenence) to 5 min wolfing down of Happy Meals......eating is almost an "inconvenience" to what we have planned in our days.........olde fashioned "ideals" in a culture that makes fun of most things olde fashioned - ironic why we still cling to these stereotypes - no one owes anyone anything - split the bill - pay the bill - it should really not be an issue of importance and a basis to form judgements......

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf Little boys split bills, or get girls to pay for them. Real men always pay for the entire bill, without complaint. It's our duty. You have to treat a woman like a princess.

You're a smart guy but this has to be your stupidest post ever.

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf "Equal" in value... but that doesn't mean we're the same. It's the duty of the man to pay. Why don't "men" here live up to their responsibility?

Dude talk to me when you are 35 and divorced and left with virtually nothing because your gold digging wife left you for a richer guy...

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf Little boys split bills, or get girls to pay for them. Real men always pay for the entire bill, without complaint. It's our duty. You have to treat a woman like a princess.

the higher the pedastel, the farther u far. treat me like an equal.

who ever askes, pays first date. after u split 50/50 or take turns.

oh, and i'd buy my husband ther ring

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Originally posted by chanoa oh, and i'd buy my husband ther ring

*speechless*

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id go further and say that rings are unecissary except for the actual wedding and even then they shouldnt have to cost 4 months salary.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 id go further and say that rings are unecissary except for the actual wedding and even then they shouldnt have to cost 4 months salary.

definitely not..i'd say perfect would be me, him, some locals on a beach during a vacation..weddings are a waste of money for one day and 2 yrs of stress

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Originally posted by Jayx1 id go further and say that rings are unecissary except for the actual wedding and even then they shouldnt have to cost 4 months salary.

I would agree with that as well.........good point

If you can "measure" your love to someone with a material possession - I personally don't want that kind of love - it is highly over-rated.

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