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Originally posted by tiesto14 More boats of people come to America then anywhere else filled with people wanting a better life...and we provide it to them.... Bash America all you want...but it IS the land where you can become your dreams... How many boats of people come into your countries?

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Originally posted by tiesto14 More boats of people come to America then anywhere else filled with people wanting a better life...and we provide it to them.... Bash America all you want...but it IS the land where you can become your dreams... How many boats of people come into your countries?

Well according to the United Nations, the number of asylum seekers in Western Europe is 349,727 and in Central Europe there are 20,537 so if we're talking about the EU as a whole (3 Central European countries are not in the EU - Turkey, Bulgaria, Romania) there are 370,264 people there who have claimed asylum. The number for North America is 392,264 but that would also include Canada, so just comparing the two continents, its pretty evenly matched, altho I would hazard a guess and say there are a significant number of asylum seekers in Canada, meaning there is more than likely a greater number of asylum seekers in the EU than in the US. Either way, your talking out of your arse

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Originally posted by Dervish >UNHCR<

Jinx!!

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 1 You would be naive into thinking that any aggression against North Korea was done on sheer accident. 2You act as if the US has a mind of it's own. 3Your anti-american sentiment; was it born with you or did you conjure this up out of your own free will? Me a spin machine, that's funny. I am not a supporter of nor do I condone any foreign or domestic policy from this or any administration. What I can tell you is that you are trying to push your opinion of anti-americanism as if that is going to change anything. I am also alighting you of the burden that the opinion gathered in your mind is something most likely brought on by some external force, most likely by any recent events. This is propogated by your self indulgence of the matter by colorful comments like "bloody Americans should mind their own God damn business". We "bloody Americans" have no control of the government and it's wanton actions that you speak so highly of. 4The US is not acting alone despite what you think is the contrary. If you think the US is acting alone I have a bridge on the River Thames to sell you.

1Ehh?
2Ehhh?
3We Americans have no control over our government.... (how democratic.... a beacon to the rest of us)
4True, other nations do as the US does, it acts for its own that is yours as an American citizen's best intrests.

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 You would be naive into thinking that any aggression against North Korea was done on sheer accident.

Eh? Right, I am talking about a deliberate strike on North Korea by the US. I have no idea what you are now talking about!

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You act as if the US has a mind of it's own.

Eh?

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Your anti-american sentiment; was it born with you or did you conjure this up out of your own free will? Me a spin machine, that's funny.

Did I say you were a spin machine?

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I am not a supporter of nor do I condone any foreign or domestic policy from this or any administration.

So everything you have said about me being "anti-American" applies to you too?

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What I can tell you is that you are trying to push your opinion of anti-americanism as if that is going to change anything.

Eh?

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I am also alighting you of the burden that the opinion gathered in your mind is something most likely brought on by some external force, most likely by any recent events.

No shit Sherlock!

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This is propogated by your self indulgence of the matter by colorful comments like "bloody Americans should mind their own God damn business". We "bloody Americans" have no control of the government and it's wanton actions that you speak so highly of.

I tell ya something about "bloody Americans"! They have no bloody concept of sarcasm! But now I am maybe starting to understand where you are coming from...I have no problem with Americans, I'm not anti-American as in I hate Americans! Anti-American for me means anti-US policy. I also describe myself as anti-Israel but thats the policies of their government, not the people. You seriously need to make the distinction

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The US is not acting alone despite what you think is the contrary. If you think the US is acting alone I have a bridge on the River Thames to sell you.

I said the US is an imperial power, if you want to apply that to other countries you would be perfectly within your right to do so (and I would probably agree) but that takes nothing away from the current topic that America IS an imperial power...

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Originally posted by George Smiley Jinx!!

mine has a pretty picture, non of thouse confusing numbers here.....

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 You would be naive into thinking that any aggression against North Korea was done on sheer accident. You act as if the US has a mind of it's own. Your anti-american sentiment; was it born with you or did you conjure this up out of your own free will? Me a spin machine, that's funny. I am not a supporter of nor do I condone any foreign or domestic policy from this or any administration. What I can tell you is that you are trying to push your opinion of anti-americanism as if that is going to change anything. I am also alighting you of the burden that the opinion gathered in your mind is something most likely brought on by some external force, most likely by any recent events. This is propogated by your self indulgence of the matter by colorful comments like "bloody Americans should mind their own God damn business". We "bloody Americans" have no control of the government and it's wanton actions that you speak so highly of. The US is not acting alone despite what you think is the contrary. If you think the US is acting alone I have a bridge on the River Thames to sell you.

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The US is not acting alone despite what you think is the contrary. If you think the US is acting alone I have a bridge on the River Thames to sell you.

Well enlighten me as to who these secret partners of the US are as regards North Korea.

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Originally posted by George Smiley

Now your just taking the piss....

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Originally posted by George Smiley I said the US is an imperial power, if you want to apply that to other countries you would be perfectly within your right to do so (and I would probably agree) but that takes nothing away from the current topic that America IS an imperial power...

There's a bridge on the River Thames I have for sale at fair market value.

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 There's a bridge on the River Thames I have for sale at fair market value.

It's just such a shame you can't put as much thought into your posts about politics than you do in you jokes...

Did you even consider addressing the points raised? Or did you realise you haven't a clue?

What you've stated is a point of view that you couldn't have possibly come up with on your own without some sort of outside intervention. I made a point of this to tell you that you do not speak for whatever political climate you come from. Your wanton statement is without regard to any known or unknown facts.

Since you came to this conclusion, it is my belief that you do not know what you are talking about since what you claim is an overstatement.

You do not provide facts just useless bar room rhetoric.

Fact is that you were not born with disdain with the US and it's governmental foreign policy aside from what was told and shown to you from your television that you seem to trust so much.

If the tv, or tele depending on what side of the pond your on, told you that there are people out to hurt you and these same people on the tube made you to give up your liberties then you would do so. All on the count of the tv is so trusting.

[sarcasm]The tv wouldn't lie to you. Not in the slightest bit.[/sarcasm]

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 What you've stated is a point of view that you couldn't have possibly come up with on your own without some sort of outside intervention. I made a point of this to tell you that you do not speak for whatever political climate you come from. Your wanton statement is without regard to any known or unknown facts. Since you came to this conclusion, it is my belief that you do not know what you are talking about since what you claim is an overstatement. You do not provide facts just useless bar room rhetoric. Fact is that you were not born with disdain with the US and it's governmental foreign policy aside from what was told and shown to you from your television that you seem to trust so much. If the tv, or tele depending on what side of the pond your on, told you that there are people out to hurt you and these same people on the tube made you to give up your liberties then you would do so. All on the count of the tv is so trusting. [sarcasm]The tv wouldn't lie to you. Not in the slightest bit.[/sarcasm]

Don't usually like to bring this one out of the bag but seein as you asked...

I have a BA degree in politics and I am just coming to the end of doing an MA in terrorism and security, so you can take your "TV" and stick it up yer jacksie...