using ableton properly could transform trance sets into something quite different to the norm.
however, it seems that that Ableton is becoming somewhat of a bandwagon, and PvD has jumped onto it. and he hasn't done much with it apart from what appears to be using it a psudo-form of traktor. that is gash. At least G&D use/used it to good effect when i've watched them.
And you miss the initial point that helen was making dave, which was that you can do lots of stuff with ableton that you can't do with your traditional mixing setup. at no point did she refer that it was an amazing tool that PvD was making full use of
Yes lots of use of the word 'could' on this topic. It could do this and it could do that. However in the hands of a trance dj it never will really will it?
Sep-04-2005 19:44
dj_mdma
I'm on HarderFaster now.
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Posh Twickenham
considering the general talent of trance DJ's doesn't really progress past basic mixing skills like beatmatching and correct phrasing, i would have to agree with you there
Originally posted by Dave Clarke
Yes lots of use of the word 'could' on this topic. It could do this and it could do that. However in the hands of a trance dj it never will really will it?
true, basically because of the way trance is produced, there isn't much you can do with it in that sense. tracks are often made to sound full & complete, with their own clear-cut peak/trough structures and melodic overtones. trying anything beyond mixing the outros with the intros will normally result in horrid clashing. i've heard very few DJs who could disprove this anyway
Sep-04-2005 20:02
kr00t0n
Archduke of Awesome
Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Hibernating
Christ people are pessimistic old codgers these days
Thanks god some of us still know how to go out and have a good time
01. Chemical Brothers - Galvanise (Unknown Remix)
02. Mike Koglin vs Jono Grant - Sequential
03. ID
04. Marc van Linden - Forbidden Love
05. Stoneface & Terminal - Miami
06. Pulser - Point of Impact (Mike Koglin Remix)
07. ID
08. Marco V - False Light
09. Sander van Doorn - Dark Roast (Paul van Dyk Edit)
10. Timo Maas - Pictures (Paul van Dyk Remix)
11. Hands On Keane - Last Time (Martin Roth Bootleg) (Paul van Dyk Rework)
12. ID
13. Marzz - Helion Prime
14. ID
15. Smith & Pledger - Northern Lights
16. Perasma - Swing 2 Harmony (Deserves An Effort Symphony Dub Mix)
17. Andain - Beautiful Things (Markus Schulz Shadows Of Coldharbour Mix)
18. M.I.K.E - Turn Out The Lights (Paul van Dyk Rework)
19. Antimatter - Absolut Zero (Paul van Dyk Rework)
20. Inertia - The Chamber (Paul van Dyk Rework)
21. Randy Katana - Play It Louder
22. Marcel Woods - Adrenaline
23. Josh Wink - Higher State Of Conciousness (Bootleg Mix)
24. Guiseppe Ottovanni - Linking People
25. Nu-NRG - Casino [w/ Freefall - Skydive (Mr Sam Mix) Sampled]
26. Ernesto & Bastian - Dark Side Of The Moon (Marc Van Linden Remix)
27. Freefall - Skydive (Mr Sam Mix)
28. Krzysztof Chochlow - Release
29. Markus Schulz feat Departure - Without You Near (Original Mix)
30. Paul van Dyk feat. Wayned Jackson - The Other Side
31. Paul van Dyk feat. Jan Johnston - Nothing But You (Original Mix)
32. Paul van Dyk - For An Angel (Marc van Linden Remix)
Also played was:
Second Sun - Playground (Nu-NRG Remix) (Definitely)
Thomas Bronswaer - Close Horizon (Possibly)
Please slot them in on the tracklist above if you know where they should be. Also add any others if you can.
Last edited by DJ Mikey Mike on Sep-05-2005 at 00:28
Sep-04-2005 22:24
Ian
Not dead yet.
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: UK
quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
true, basically because of the way trance is produced, there isn't much you can do with it in that sense. tracks are often made to sound full & complete, with their own clear-cut peak/trough structures and melodic overtones. trying anything beyond mixing the outros with the intros will normally result in horrid clashing. i've heard very few DJs who could disprove this anyway
exactly & same response to Dave's last post, I fail to see the use for nearly all trance DJs with maybe a few exceptions
Sep-04-2005 22:26
isoterra
hi
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Nottingham, UK
mikey: one of those first 3 IDs was Stoneface & Terminal - Miami, i distinctly remember it being played early on. tom porcell - final cut didn't get played, i would have def remembered that
Sep-04-2005 22:42
DJ Mikey Mike
Your mum's face
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: I'm at your mums'
What about Naxos Project - Cold Fusion? I am pretty certain one of the first couple of tracks in his N-Joy set was played but I always get this and Final Cut confused with each other. Failing that, one of the early tracks might have been Deep Voice - Alone Again (Thomas Datt Remix). But again all these shit trancers sound the same to me.
Sep-04-2005 22:45
isoterra
hi
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Nottingham, UK
i like final cut ... hehe, not heard that cold fusion track but will check it out & see. actually now i remember, smith & pledger - northern lights (pvd rework) was definitely played, could have possibly been that you confused it with? lord knows if i can remember what part of the night it was though, around the middle
hehehehe @ lam
... hehe, not heard that cold fusion track but will check it out & see. actually now i remember, smith & pledger - northern lights (pvd rework) was definitely played, could have possibly been that you confused it with? lord knows if i can remember what part of the night it was though, around the middle
