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hardstyle
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Yeah and Real Madrid won the titles 27 times but the spanish leage is like 100 years old. So winning the title 27 times out of 100 isnt a big dominance

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quote:
Originally posted by hardstyle
Everybody knows who David Beckham is, and if the eurosport wouldnt have nba show what got canceled due to the lack of interest(no surprise) i wouldnt know who he is, i seen him in Space Jam so i would probbly think hes an actor.
Just like 2 Pac , i didnt even heard of 2pac until 2001


he's mainly known in the US as that guy who got married to a former Spice Girl

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quote:
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he's mainly known in the US as that guy who got married to a former Spice Girl






And Hardstyle, sorry, but Michael Jordan is a name that everyone knows and recognizes with Basketball all over the world.

Guys like David Beckham are unknown to most of America but MJ is popular all over the world and especially in europe.

He's one of the greatest athletes in any sport of all time, maybe the greatest.

In the 90's kids all over america and all over europe ran around with his NIKE Air shoes.

He's as popular as Michael Jackson was in the 90's.

You couldn't compare a Michael Jordan to a David Beckham or any other soccer player because he's an icon.

You remember the '92 olympics in Barcelona and what a media spectacel was around the first ever USA Dream Team? Over here in europe the Dream Team were the #1 stars during the Olympics.


And only because YOU don't know any american sports stars does't mean that these people aren't popular over here in europe.

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quote:
Originally posted by hardstyle
Yeah and Real Madrid won the titles 27 times but the spanish leage is like 100 years old. So winning the title 27 times out of 100 isnt a big dominance


The Montreal Canadians were founded in 1909 and won 24 titles since than.


And winning 27 titles in 100 years IS dominant.

In 40 Super Bowls only 3 teams won 5 times because it is very tough. There are a lot of great teams every year.

In american sports you usually have around 4-6 teams that have serious chances to win the title, not to mention the teams that surprise everyone.

Now take the european soccer leagues:

England -> Everyone would have put his bets on Chelsea at the beginning of the season. Liverpool may beat them in the Champions League but during an entire season they couldn't catch Chelsea. Which team in England really is a threat to Chelsea? It's allready for sure that they will win the Premier League. Isn't that boring?

Germany -> Here's the same with Bayern Munich. We have Munich...and than a couple of good teams but for them Bayer is out of rich. After 20 gamedays it's sure that Bayern will win the german championship unless Makaay, Ballack, Lucio and Kahn all get injured...

Spain -> OK a little more exciting here but not really. Real has a bad season and we all know Barca will be on top at the end of the season.

France -> Olympique Lyon DOMINATES the entire league.

Italy -> Juventus will bring the title home. Inter and AC Milan are not very far behind but no one would put his bets on them!


So you see...we are halfway through the seasons and allready know the champions.

Yeah european soccer is so much more exciting than the NBA, NFL, MLB or NHL

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hardstyle
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Well you can argue with me as long as you want but if you ask people around the world which sports are more exiting soccer or American sports im sure 70% say soccer , thats why american sports arent as popular as soccer

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Most Popular Sports Worldwide
Soccer is number 1. This is undisputed.

Here is input from FAQ Farmers on other sports' popularity:


Soccer, Boxing, Auto Racing, Football, Basketball, Baseball, Hockey, Rugby.

Football as in NFL?, baseball, ice hockey? Those are predominantly all North American sports. Let's take a look; population of Canada + US = rougly 300 million! India (pop 1 billion) - just by itself can put cricket and field hockey above baseball and ice hockey. Looking at the international scene, cricket is more popular than baseball. And field hockey is a lot more popular than ice hockey! NFL shouldn't even be counted in this category!

Ice hockey is also popular all over Europe east and west, plus Russia plus the US plus Canada. That's about a billon and a bit enough to give it some distinction.

After soccer I think it is Rugby Union.

I think its cricket, AFL, soccer, table, tennis, vollyball, baseball and rugby.

I think its soccer, volleyball, tennis and cricket.

Soccer is the most popular with over the half of the world's population watching it. (3.3 Billion). Cricket is the next. Everyone would be probably surprised. But, about half of the world's population lives in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. Moreover Cricket is the national sport of England. Australia's most popular sport is cricket, even new zeland. Total cricket fans are 3 to 3.3 BILLION. Hockey is also very popular. Then comes Volleyball, Tennis. American sports like baseball and basketball are not played anywhere in India, China, Pakistan, so they do not have a lot of fans.

1. Football (i.e. soccer), 2. Tennis, 3. Swimming, 4. Basketball, 5. Motor Racing, 6. Ice Hockey, 7. Cricket, 8. Golf, 9. Baseball, 10. Snooker (i.e. pool or billiards). These ratings are based on people following the sports, teams participating and popularity.

It is cricket, after all the whole south asia and especially india with 1 billion population then there is europe australia and even U.S and canada now.

CRICKET BY FAR! INDIA = over 1 billion

Football first. No argument with that. (americans note: By football, I mean what you people call soccer) Cricket next. Someone previously said its a local sport. Add the population of India, pakistan, srilanka, bangladesh, england, south africa, new zealand, australia, west indies, zimbabwe, scotland, ireland, holland, kenya, UAE, namibia and many more. You'll get the picture. It might become popular in china too in the years to come. If it does, then no other sport would come anywhere near in terms of popularity. Btw USA and canada too have a cricket team.

After football (soccer) and cricket would come boxing. Boxing generates a little bit of interest in many countries in the world which eventually adds up. Countries like Pakistan and the U.S. (both heavily populated) have many prominent boxers and the people have some interest in the sport too.


[edit answer]Popularity of Sports
1) Football Soccer.

The most important and popular sport in the world. In Europe and Latin America is the number one sport in all countries, in Africa is almost the most important sport as well its becoming a mayor popular sport in China, Korea, Japan and the Middle East.

Weakness: Its no so popular in India, USA and Canada. Women Football is not as popular as men.

2) Basketball

The second most popular sport in the World. Its one of the most popular sports in USA, Canada, the second in importance in Europe, Brasil, Argentina and China. nº1 sport in Lithuania.

Weakness: It’s a sport for tall people, not so popular in Africa, the middle east, India, and East Asia.

3) Car Racing (F1, Rally, CART etc).

The highiest TV rating sport in the World.

Weakness: Some people don’t consider this to be a real sport.

4) Tennis.

A worldwide sport, played everywhere. Wimbledon, Roland Garros, US Open, Australia and the Davis Cup and mayor world sports events. For Women it’s the most popular sport in the World.

Weakness: It’s a sport for middle and high class people.

5) Athletism (includes swimming)

The World Cup is the third in importance after the Soccer World Cup and the Olimpic games.

Weakness: Its being constellation of sports in which Capitalism fought peacefully against the Communist countries. In Latin America and the Third World Countries, this kind of sports are not that popular.

6) Golf

Another Worldwide sport, played everywhere. Specially in USA and Europe.

Weakness: Its a sport for very high class people.

7) Boxing.

Some people consider Boxing the second sport in popularity. But it depends too much on the actual boxers in activity.

Weakness: It’s a danger sport, only occasionally there is a fight that stimulates the worlds attention.

8) Baseball.

The nº1 sport in USA.

Weakness: It’s a local sport, only being popular in USA, Venezuela, Central America, Puerto Rico, Cuba and Japan. It doesn’t have a World Cup, and the best players never attend in the Olimpic Games.

9) Volleyball (includes beach volley)

A Worldwide sport. Being played in every corner of the planet. It’s the second most popular sport in Brasil. Women volley is the second sport for Women in the World.

Weakness: Many people practice it, but doesn’t follow the professional tournaments. The best players are not known by the people and the mass media.

10) Hockey (ice, land and roller).

Another Local Sport. Land Hockey: It’s the National and Second in Popularity sport in India and Pakistan. Also a mayor Olimpic Sport.

Ice Hockey: The National Sport in Canada and very popular in USA, Russia and Northern Europe. A mayor sport in the Winter Olimpic Games.

Weakness: It’s a sport being played in few countries with no big popularity. In Latin America its only being played in Argentina where the women version of Land Hockey is more popular than the men s one.

11) Water, Wind Sports. (surf, wind-surf, boating, etc)

Too many and of different kinds. Only popular in the high class people.

Surf is a very popular sport everywhere.

Weakness: competitions doesn’t awake the worlds attention.

12) Skiing. A Sport for high classes in USA and Europe.

13) Cricket

Another Local Sport. Played almost in the British Colonies, it’s the most important sport in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and the West Indies (Bahamas), and its the national sport in England and the third in popularity in Australia and South Africa.

Weakness. Its just a Local sport with no existence in the rest of the World.

14) Rugby (union, league and seven)

A Local Sport. Played in the British Colonies and in France. It’s the most popular sport in New Zealand, the second in England, France and South Africa. And very popular in Australia.

Weakness: Its not an Olimpic Sport. In some parts of the World, specially in the whole American continent, East Europe, Asia and Africa this sport is don’t even known.

15) Table Tennis.

It’s an important Olimpic sport. The National Sport in China.

Weakness: In most parts of the World its just a game.

16) Martian Arts (Judo, Taek Won Do, Karate, etc)

Another important Olimpic Sports.

Weakness: The ordinary people doesnt understand its rules, so its difficult to see it if you have never practice them.

17) Cycling

A Mayor Sport. Important in the Olimpic Games. The nº1 sport in the Basque Country (Spain).

Weakness: It’s a boring sport to watch it on TV.

18) American Football

A Sport only being Popular in USA

19) Handball

A Sport only important cause its an Olympic Sport.

20) Waterpolo.

A Sport only important cause its an Olympic Sport. Only popular in Spain.

21) Bull Fighting

Only popular in Spain and Mexico.

22) Badminton

A Sport only important cause its an Olimpic Sport, in many countries its just a game.

23) Polo

It’s a sport for Aristocrats. Only Popular in Argentina.

24) Australian Football.

Nº1 Sport in Australia.

25) Hurlingham.

Only played in Britain and some parts of USA.

26) Paddle Tennis.

Only Popular in Argentina and Spain.

27) Chess.

This is not a sport

28) Turf. Gambling not a sport.

29) Shooting. For fight not a sport


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Americans are almost alone in the world with their lack of enthusiasm for the game known as "football" everywhere but in America, where it is called "soccer." Although the Germans know about baseball and American football, neither of these New World sports is very popular or widespread in Germany or Europe. Although an annual American football exhibition game in Berlin has become a recent tradition, German boys still grow up playing Fußball (soccer), not [American] football.

So yeah becouse its kind of popuylar in Germany it doesnt mean everybody else fallows it

In recent years, some American games have become more popular in Germany. Basketball has a reasonably large number of fans, and volleyball is also quite popular. But the king of German amateur and professional sports is definitely soccer, “König Fußball” (“king football”). Thousands of amateur Fußballvereine (soccer clubs) provide the opportunity for Germans to play soccer. As a spectator sport, soccer draws an average of over 25,000 fans to each professional game. The Germans have won the World Cup three times, the last being in 1990...



http://www.german-way.com/sport.html

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And Hardstyle, sorry, but Michael Jordan is a name that everyone knows and recognizes with Basketball all over the world.

Guys like David Beckham are unknown to most of America but MJ is popular all over the world and especially in europe.

He's one of the greatest athletes in any sport of all time, maybe the greatest.

In the 90's kids all over america and all over europe ran around with his NIKE Air shoes.

He's as popular as Michael Jackson was in the 90's.

You couldn't compare a Michael Jordan to a David Beckham or any other soccer player because he's an icon.

You remember the '92 olympics in Barcelona and what a media spectacel was around the first ever USA Dream Team? Over here in europe the Dream Team were the #1 stars during the Olympics.


And only because YOU don't know any american sports stars does't mean that these people aren't popular over here in europe.


nobody fucking cares about Michael Jordan anymore....especially in Europe and the rest of the world. You want to talk about the best and most famous athlete ever.....how about Pele, or Maradona, or Bobby Moore back in the day? Come on.....everybody knows who Beckham is...there was a huge movie (even though it sucked) named AFTER HIM. They might not follow him, but he's surely known all around the world.

Some of you Gerries have funny ideas.....basketball more popular than football in Europe. That will be the day.......


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quote:
Originally posted by Rockabye

Now take the european soccer leagues:

England -> Everyone would have put his bets on Chelsea at the beginning of the season. Liverpool may beat them in the Champions League but during an entire season they couldn't catch Chelsea. Which team in England really is a threat to Chelsea? It's allready for sure that they will win the Premier League. Isn't that boring?



But this is more of a recent development. Every league goes through a time when one team is dominant. That's why the European Leagues are BETTER....because they don't just have ONE trophy. There's some diversification there...CL, FA Cups, League Cups and the League. Give the EPL a few years and Chelsea won't be running away with anything.

And let's go back to North American sports. Hmm....I seem to remember the Canadiens dominating the NHL throughout the 50s, 60s and especially the 70s when they won 6 of 10 cups in the decade. It's not always BORING when one team dominates. And then there's the Yankees. And howabout the 49ers in the 80s? 4 Superbowls in 7 years was it? Every fucking league has dynasties you moron. They come and go.


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quote:
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Now take the european soccer leagues:

England -> Everyone would have put his bets on Chelsea at the beginning of the season. Liverpool may beat them in the Champions League but during an entire season they couldn't catch Chelsea. Which team in England really is a threat to Chelsea? It's allready for sure that they will win the Premier League. Isn't that boring?

Germany -> Here's the same with Bayern Munich. We have Munich...and than a couple of good teams but for them Bayer is out of rich. After 20 gamedays it's sure that Bayern will win the german championship unless Makaay, Ballack, Lucio and Kahn all get injured...

Spain -> OK a little more exciting here but not really. Real has a bad season and we all know Barca will be on top at the end of the season.

France -> Olympique Lyon DOMINATES the entire league.

Italy -> Juventus will bring the title home. Inter and AC Milan are not very far behind but no one would put his bets on them!


So you see...we are halfway through the seasons and allready know the champions.


every year at least one team dominates one of these leagues but i must say this year has been quite an exception.. i don't remember any situation like this recently where every big league seems to be decided

quote:
Yeah european soccer is so much more exciting than the NBA, NFL, MLB or NHL


I'd say american sports are too exciting. Like, every 5 mins there must be some BIG event. The commentators are WOWED by every move. A football team gets an extra yard, they CELEBRATE. It's halftime, everyone's EXCITED for the COMMERCIALS. Every game is REALLY important. Americans might like that, but over here we don't want to be treated like a 16 year old girl getting her first orgasm. Do you get what I'm saying?


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The Montreal Canadians were founded in 1909 and won 24 titles since than.


And winning 27 titles in 100 years IS dominant.

In 40 Super Bowls only 3 teams won 5 times because it is very tough. There are a lot of great teams every year.

In american sports you usually have around 4-6 teams that have serious chances to win the title, not to mention the teams that surprise everyone.

Now take the european soccer leagues:

England -> Everyone would have put his bets on Chelsea at the beginning of the season. Liverpool may beat them in the Champions League but during an entire season they couldn't catch Chelsea. Which team in England really is a threat to Chelsea? It's allready for sure that they will win the Premier League. Isn't that boring?

Germany -> Here's the same with Bayern Munich. We have Munich...and than a couple of good teams but for them Bayer is out of rich. After 20 gamedays it's sure that Bayern will win the german championship unless Makaay, Ballack, Lucio and Kahn all get injured...

Spain -> OK a little more exciting here but not really. Real has a bad season and we all know Barca will be on top at the end of the season.

France -> Olympique Lyon DOMINATES the entire league.

Italy -> Juventus will bring the title home. Inter and AC Milan are not very far behind but no one would put his bets on them!


So you see...we are halfway through the seasons and allready know the champions.

Yeah european soccer is so much more exciting than the NBA, NFL, MLB or NHL




completely different set ups. If the nfl was run as just a league you would get the same teams doing well nearly. COlts and the broncos would be up there most seasons. Look at this season, stealers were the last seed i nthe afc.

If premier league broke off into a playoff system to decide the winner, chelsea wouldnt always win it. As was shown when liverpool beat them in a 2-legged match.


Personnally i think both sports are great and loving watching both.


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i am tired. i don't feel like reading all these posts. haha. .

just one thing . i respect soccer and how it is a tough sport and everything . but i don't think you soccer guys should be dissing american football. it is a lot tougher than you see on tv. the more "boring" it is on tv, the harder those hits the football guys are getting on the football field. having a 250+ rip cut guy running full speed at you with a metal helmet and 20 pounds of padding on him hit you will hurt a lot. and you have to get up from that too . i will say that american football has 10 times more cases of concussions and broken bones than soccer .

i have to say that american football is one of the more deadly sports right now , along with of course boxing and other sports that involve wild animals.

i would say that shuffleboard can get real nasty at times. especially when you take the stick and start wacking your opponents while he is trying to hit his shot.


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