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Originally posted by Homer_SS Yah i know but it seems most people have this idea stuck in there head that everyone in the middle east is an islamic extremist oppressed person living in tents and mud huts in the middle of the desert.

true...

"u guys have pepsi there?? no wayyyyy"

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video (praising Bin Laden, threatening violence, etc.)














Dressed as a suicide bomber.


^^^^
All in London, not the Middle East.

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf Dressed as a suicide bomber. ^^^^ All in London, not the Middle East.

LOL funny how ONE person wrote all those signs!

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Originally posted by fayraree LOL funny how ONE person wrote all those signs!

I'm not laughing. You see what the leaders instill upon them?

It only takes one person to anger someone, one person rile up the agry, one person to start the group to commit violence, once person do declare war.

We should never laugh off the threats by these extremists. They have the shortest fuses, they are the ones you can not argue with, they are not the ones you can have a more or less rational discussion like we can in this forum. It's their way or not at all.

The muslim community should not brush off these threats, or minimalize them to only one person. Your community needs you, the proud Canadian muslim to speak out against these estremists. brushing them off only justifies their existance, and helps them grow by numbers.

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf video (praising Bin Laden, threatening violence, etc.) Dressed as a suicide bomber. ^^^^ All in London, not the Middle East.

wow you still alive? I really thought you were dead for awhile.

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf video (praising Bin Laden, threatening violence, etc.) Dressed as a suicide bomber. ^^^^ All in London, not the Middle East.

this is not funny at all
i cant believe these idiots are allowed to pull shit like this in - London! jesus christ.....
"behead those who insult islam"? these people need to be burnt alive, just for posting a caricature about mohhamed will make someone behead a person?
its like someone insulting you by saying a yo momma is so fat.. joke, are you gonna fucking behead him?

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/200...456821.html?i=1

check this site and click next, they show them burning a building down
i cant believe how these people are walking around with signs saying that "europe will pay and descruction is on the way" when that europe gave these people shelter and posibility of having a better life than the one they had back home..i just cannot understand these people

i also found a site of a bunch of cartoonists that "dont care" or a reaction on a reaction of the original cartoons
http://www.cagle.com/news/Muhammad/main.asp

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Originally posted by Abercrombie brushing them off only justifies their existance, and helps them grow by numbers.

I just think it's a bit unreal. I find it hard to believe that educated Muslims in London (that aren't too different from Canadian Muslims) will all hold up signs written by one person spelling out disgusting threats like that.

I think it's been a) photocopped or b) photos made to look like there are more people involved than there really are. It looks like 5 signs localized to about 15 people and suddenly all "normal" Muslims should stand up at arms? Bullshit.

Furthermore, I see these idiots just riling up the media with their "freedom of speech". No one stopped the European media from publishing those cartoons so now these people are probably just testing the same rule. I don't see them performing any public executions, or following through on that bullshit written on the posters.

I don't think anyone should take this shit that seriously--it's no different from the idiots who vandalize Jewish people's homes with Nazi symbols. Yes, it's offensive, and the people who are on the top (e.g. the author of the signs) should be watched by intelligence very closely--but no one's declaring war or anything extreme like that.

The fact that it's one person writing all the signs made it sorta fake to me and minimalized it for me because normally, in a demonstration, people speak their INDIVIDUAL minds. This is the first time I've seen something like this.

And the guy dressed as a suicide bomber? How the fuck do you know this specific picture wasn't taken from Halloween?! All the people who dress up as Osama Bin Laden--no different

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Originally posted by fayraree Furthermore, I see these idiots just riling up the media with their "freedom of speech". No one stopped the European media from publishing those cartoons so now these people are probably just testing the same rule. I don't see them performing any public executions, or following through on that bullshit written on the posters.

True, but they messages in those cartoons, and the messages urging the "SLAYING" "MASSACRE" and warnings of more "9/11" attacks is a VERY different message than the one portrayed in a cartoon. True, we should not judge all Muslims and Islam based on these fanatics, but ALL Muslims and practicing Islamist should put down, of their own accord, extremists like these.

I won't quote the rest, but your arguments are just supossitions. How do you know they're NOT as real as they seem? Granted, it is a little far fetched, but no less a possibility of it being real. TO claim these photos are chopped...kinda weak argument IMHO.


For the pictures of the hotels and buildings:
Claiming that Islam and Muslims are not backwards thinking because they are building really expensive buildings? Wow, way to look forward. The way a society exploits and uses money is in no way reflective of their culture. And rich places like Dubai and the UAE are hardly representative of the rest of the middle-eastern world. Posting a bunch of pics of the few places on earth that can afford to do something like this because they sell oil to the REST of the world. I don't understand what that has got to do with religious beliefs?

Not that I neccessarily agree or disagree, but one point I wanted to bring up to see what you people thought about it. Most practicing Christian religions, along with others that have not neccessarily fit into life in the 20th century, have made certain ammendments to make the religion more relevant. Ok, so Catholocs still believe that homosexuality is wrong, but they sure as hell don't advocate KILLING. I guess my point is that Islam spreads a much more hateful message towards non-believers than the messages of other religions. All people are free to practice that belief which they so chose, but for long can each religion survive with the belief that they are the superior, only true one.

Couple of quotes I a little offensive:
"I was ordered to fight the people until they believed in Allah"

In reference of non-Islamists "Those who inclur the wrath of Allah"

I simply cannot agree with any religions writings with messages such as the above, no matter which religion it seems to be.

Further, it seems that a religion that so strongly views women as beasts is a little outdated...but it won't be changed, because the weak, dependant minds of the masses would not be easy to convert to a new way of thinking, a way that conflicts with the preset conventions of the last thousand years....

I don't want to insult anyone by my opinions, I just want to express them here, and see what others think...

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Originally posted by fayraree And the guy dressed as a suicide bomber? How the fuck do you know this specific picture wasn't taken from Halloween?! All the people who dress up as Osama Bin Laden--no different

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4684474.stm

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