im completely gutted, for once i thought that luck would be with england given their history in penalties but i was wrong.

i dont think rooney should be solely blamed for this because england never got out of third gear since the tournament started. What he did was stupid but i dont think it deserved a red card.

im a manchester united fan but after today i really hope ronaldo gets sold to madrid. that guys a complete show boater and the way he ratted out rooney, his own teammate who he spends more time with than the portuguese team just showed his true colors. hes a gifted player, hes young but we have the money to replace him with someone whose more team oriented.

the biggest positive to come out of this game is NO MORE ERIKKSON. U cant fuck up such a talented team that badly. Throughout the tournament you could see Mclaren running around screaming while Sven was just sitting around dreaming about what club has the hottest female staff. Goodbye u wanker and I strongly beleive that things are going to go upward for England from now. they cant get ne worse as it is.

but we're stuck with McLaren

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I just hope Rooney goes to fuckin Sir Alex and says, I want that little **** out of here...

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as much as i hate ronaldo, don't blame him for ratting out rooney.

my country BEFORE my teammates, my club, etc ...

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Originally posted by raveed im a manchester united fan but after today i really hope ronaldo gets sold to madrid. that guys a complete show boater and the way he ratted out rooney, his own teammate who he spends more time with than the portuguese team just showed his true colors. hes a gifted player, hes young but we have the money to replace him with someone whose more team oriented.

I would say what ronaldo did was very team oriened today. He helped out his portugese team mates big time. Rooney deserved his red card, scummy thing to do. If ronaldo did to gerrard Rooney would of definitly been up in his face.

I also loved the way gary neville was giving Ronaldo a lot of stick for diving early i nthe second half. I have never seen him do that when he dives for man united, i wonder why?

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Portugal are this WC's South Korea

This World Cup has got to be the most boring, worst, dullest tournament I've seen in my 22 years of existence. I wanna boycott.

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Aye, it probably has to do with most of the big favorites playing like total crap. This was pretty much also the case four years ago..

I partly blame the Champions League. Most 'stars' seem very fatigued..

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Originally posted by Michael19 I would say what ronaldo did was very team oriened today. He helped out his portugese team mates big time. Rooney deserved his red card, scummy thing to do. If ronaldo did to gerrard Rooney would of definitly been up in his face.

theres a difference between team oriented and glory for selfish purposes and ronaldo i beleive falls into the latter. A team player makes others around him better players and cristiano doesnt do that like say figo.

in any case, either rooney or ronaldo will need to have a chat with beckham about how to save your ass from a million pissed of brits when ur solely held responsible for england getting knocked out.

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Originally posted by raveed theres a difference between team oriented and glory for selfish purposes and ronaldo i beleive falls into the latter. A team player makes others around him better players and cristiano doesnt do that like say figo. in any case, either rooney or ronaldo will need to have a chat with beckham about how to save your ass from a million pissed of brits when ur solely held responsible for england getting knocked out.

I see. I thought you meant that ronaldo wasnt team oriented because of what he did to rooney. He's always been a selfish c*nt. Thats the reason RVN and him had a bust up. Even before tonights match i thought united would of been better of selling him. Now i think its a definite that they will sell him.

Scoring a last minute free kick against greece to qualify for the 2002 world cup should do it.(or was it for the 2004 world cup?)

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I'm not sure...think of the EC 2 in Portugal 2 years ago. Also not that spectacular but better than Korea/Japan. It's one thing that teams which once were at best nice sparing partners can by now play pretty well and challenge the big nations (African teams, Korea/Japan, Australia)..but it's another that the stars indeed seem not to be bothered at all. I see no passion, no fighting, no risk, no love for the beauty of the game. Football is about to become a chess game with 22 sweating guys.

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Trying to be neutral here:

It was another completely shit match in a very shit cup. At least it was much more emotional than Swiss-Ukraine, altho I guess being portuguese makes it extremely hard to find the neutral point of view here.

We clearly lack a great target man striker. :\ Pauleta and Postiga were both shit. It was clearly what was missing after England went down to 10 mean and we couldn't neither enter that ultra-tight defence, or get a cross in a forward's head.

Lennon and especially Hargreaves were fantastic for England. Ricardo Carvalho did another superb game for us (clearly improving his form) and Ricardo.. well.. the first goalie ever to save 3 penalties in a world cup shootout, that alone says something. Cristiano Ronaldo did several key interceptions, and the finishing on the winning penalty is brilliant.

Refereeing: couldn't find major flaws. Rooney was well sent off (to who disagrees: you'd probably enjoy getting your balls stepped on by one of those boots), Postiga's goal was well disallowed as he was blatantly offside. Nuno Valente's alleged penalties: the first one i have some doubts on, it clearly its his hand and he does seem to make a movement with the hand towards the ball. But it's a distance of like 1 metre. As for the second claim, no way that was a penalty, clearly on the ball.

Diving: i'm not blind, we dived several times, Maniche being touched on the arm and claiming it had been on the face was particularly ridiculous, Tiago also seemed to have difficulties in remaining stand up. That being said, i also saw 3 or 4 dives by english players - they're not the saints Dj Smitty makes them out to be.

Overall, except for Rooney's aggression, England were fair, and in that aspect did gave me a much better impression than Holland. Their fans support in the stadium was superb as usual, although there was like 200x times more english than portuguese in the stadium - no chance for us to sing louder.

France or Brazil, i don't care, i don't give a flying fuck. Either of them would be really damn hard to beat, and either of them would make an extremely interesting semifinal. Brazil for the Deco and Scolari factor. France cause we still have a word to say regarding Euro 1984 and Euro 2000 - a 3rd semifinal against them would surely be fun to watch.























Ok, i can't stand any longer, fuck neutrality!

FUCK YEAH, WE WON! MIGHT HAVE TAKEN US FOURTY YEARS BUT WE'RE BACK! ONE OF THE FOUR BEST IN THE WORLD! THANKS TO RICARDO THE WHINY LITTLE WANKER!

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