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Originally posted by Omega_M Now come on, no one's asking you to bitch slap the child every time he commits a small mistake. But yes, smaking once in a while and for some serious issue obviously does him good than not smaking him at all. A child is not mature to take wise decisions all the time. wrong decisions need to be pointed out. It's a bit extreme to think that he doesn't need any smaking at all at any point of time duing his childhood. THere's a fine line between being an abusive parent and a parent who smacks a child. The parent himself needs be quite mature in the first place.

Couldn't be bothered to point this out, so thank you

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Social outcasts are often of the opinion that they must have a drink before being able to loosen up with their inhibitions, thus being able to have a good time. There's a word that sums up this sort of behaviour, and that word is 'reject.'

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Originally posted by Slylee if you're condoning smacking children and that early childhood development education is a bunch of horseshit, then you are clearly the ignorant one here.

I thought childhood development classes were a polite term for sex education

do children here actually need to take classes where they are taught how there parents are supposed to treat them???

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Originally posted by raveed do children here actually need to take classes where they are taught how there parents are supposed to treat them???

No, it's for people who aren't parents, teaching assisstants and those who want to work in nurseries for the rest of their lives, and claim to know more about parenting than the parents because they've done a course entitled as such.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Social outcasts are often of the opinion that they must have a drink before being able to loosen up with their inhibitions, thus being able to have a good time. There's a word that sums up this sort of behaviour, and that word is 'reject.'

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ No, it's for people who aren't parents, teaching assisstants and those who want to work in nurseries for the rest of their lives, and claim to know more about parenting than the parents because they've done a course entitled as such.

so its basically non parents teaching future parents on how to be good parents???

what nonsense ... watever happened to reading a good parenting book and giving in to your own parental instincts

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Originally posted by raveed so its basically non parents teaching future parents on how to be good parents???

Pretty much. Although prospective teachers do it sometimes too I think.

My sis-inlaw read books, which is fine, but she did EVERYTHING by the book, and it became annoying.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Social outcasts are often of the opinion that they must have a drink before being able to loosen up with their inhibitions, thus being able to have a good time. There's a word that sums up this sort of behaviour, and that word is 'reject.'

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Originally posted by igottaknow group hug anyone?

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actually this is pointless. you have no idea what you're talking about and you're pretty much arguing that every expert in this field (i.e. a child psychologist, or pretty much any psychologist) doesn't know what they're saying when it comes to punishing a child by using phsyical force (ok so that was better than "smacking" right?)

i actually babysat for a young couple for 2 years in high school and the wife was about 29 and she had her degree in early childhood development from a major university (some midwest state, i forget) and ran a daycare. i actually learned a great deal from her. everything she said made sense and her kids were awesome (they were 2 and 4 at the time). she really knew how to get them to listen and behave without having to spank them or anything like that. and they had their moments, but she had patience and understanding, and most importantly, education about young children and their way of thinking and dealing with things. that's the problem. most adults are ignorant about what goes through a 3 and 4 year old's mind. they don't know the reasoning behind it or how to deal with it. in the parent's mind, they're just being a "brat" and need a good "ass whooping".


anyway, i'm done yacking about my knowledge of how to deal with young children (who would have thought? ). i know i dont have any of my own, but i have tons of experience and pretty good knowledge even though i dont have a degree in it, and i know enough to know that what you are saying is just your own opinion based on your own experience, which you need to realize doesn't mean it's right.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

I'm sure the couple you babysat for had great kids. I've done baby-sitting and see the same thing.

But equally, I would say kids who have been smacked also turn out great.

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Originally posted by Slylee i know enough to know that what you are saying is just your own opinion based on your own experience, which you need to realize doesn't mean it's right.

Take a leaf out of your own book, please!

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Social outcasts are often of the opinion that they must have a drink before being able to loosen up with their inhibitions, thus being able to have a good time. There's a word that sums up this sort of behaviour, and that word is 'reject.'

Last edited by _Ocean_Drive_ on Sep-26-2006 at 23:10

You don't need a fucking degree in ECD to know developmental stages of children and what they need to grow up "right". It's not like it's priviledged information.


We study this shit heavily in nursing, and there is no "right" or "wrong" way to raise a child. Sure, there are specific things a parent should be doing in order to teach their child good behaviour, but in the end nothing really matters more than the consistency of rewards or punishments you give them...whether it be a smack here and there or not. All the child will understand in the end is whether mommy and daddy mean what they say....it's up to the parent how they choose to enforce that.

In my opinion, a smack here and there is perfectly acceptable, only if the parent shows the child an equal amount of love and praise for things he or she does "right". You can't just scold a child only, or praise them only....there has to be both.

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Originally posted by Danny Ocean /endthread

yea or atleast change the title of the thread....its soo misleading...