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Originally posted by TheDemon Everybody has oponions, and of course we're all going to flame eachother for it at one point.

You see, sir, that is what really differentiates this forum from the COR and the other forums. Anyone here can certainly have an opinion, and no one including myself wants to state otherwise. However, you must be prepared to DEFEND your opinion here with any substantial evidence, because that is the nature of a "debate" is it not?

So if you feel that you are not capable or are unwilling to defend such opinions, I'm afraid you might be a bit misplaced.

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Iam not the first to do that nor the last. I did not jump to conclusions, I saw the same video as you.

I'm afraid you did jump to concusions, one of which was that this was somehow racially motivated. Do you have any evidence to support this argument yet?

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Originally posted by TheDemon Do you know me? you prejudged me and called me a juvenile just baed on a few comments I made. Can you justify that? I haven't misinterperted anything you said. You calling me a kid was one thing, but doing it purely on prejudice wasn't warranted. So you too jumped to a conclusion without much merit.

Prejudice

I think my criticism had quite a bit of merit. Everything you've posted in the Political Discussion forum that I've seen has been pretty immature. I wouldn't mind if you weren't being juvenile and posted some logical, factually based arguments, but you haven't.

Also, I just want to reiterate what I've said repeatedly before: I find it absolutely amazing that you're starting a flame war with two people who most people who frequent this board regard as liberal/libertarian and who both condemned police actions.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 You see, sir, that is what really differentiates this forum from the COR and the other forums. Anyone here can certainly have an opinion, and no one including myself wants to state otherwise. However, you must be prepared to DEFEND your opinion here with any substantial evidence, because that is the nature of a "debate" is it not?

Although this is one of the COR's better threads lately, maybe he'd be more at home here - http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=382427

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"Go back to bed america your government is in control
Here's American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it,
Watch these picturary retards bang their fuckin' skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom,
Here you go America you are free to do as we tell you
We want your soul
Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Let's recap: 2. You came here presenting an argument that a YouTube recording of a guy getting stoned and commenting in a rather muffled and incoherent manner was somehow insightful. When presented with supporting your argument that this is some how insightful, you resort to criticism of the posts themselves rather than defend your argument in any way. Since you brought the argument that this video is insightful, and that there may be other videos are insightful as well, it is not my responsibility to somehow see if your argument is valid or not by going on a scavenger hunt for you. You presented the argument, therefore it is upon you to defend it. So please bring forth these videos that are supposedly as insightful as the one you exhibited earlier. Is this really that difficult for you? Are you having any troubles with this?

Lets recap!

I presented a link to a video with a comment stating that there are MANY VIDEOS with insightful views. I did not state that this specific video is the only one. There is a link to see other videos, where, Like right next to it. You watch one video and draw a conclustion. I stated that there are many videos. Yet you keep reffering to that one video. I have sent that link to may people i know and they have gone through as many as 20 others.

If you are unwilling to click on the other videos which are conveniently right there, that is not my problem. You do however take that lazy act and claim that its too much of a bother for you and that I have to do it for you. Not my problem. By the way, I never stated that my whole argument was based on this one link. Thats your saying, not mine.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Prejudice I think my criticism had quite a bit of merit. Everything you've posted in the Political Discussion forum that I've seen has been pretty immature. I wouldn't mind if you weren't being juvenile and posted some logical, factually based arguments, but you haven't. Also, I just want to reiterate what I've said repeatedly before: I find it absolutely amazing that you're starting a flame war with two people who most people who frequent this board regard as liberal/libertarian and who both condemned police actions.

Oh and we are to presume that everything you say is fair and justified. on the one hand you state that you are well known for your libertal approach, yet you call me a child. you claim it was justified because you read some of my posts, that is prejudice. Just because some people on these boards know you doesn't mean that you have immunity in what you say.

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Originally posted by TheDemon Lets recap! I presented a link to a video with a comment stating that there are MANY VIDEOS with insightful views. I did not state that this specific video is the only one. There is a link to see other videos, where, Like right next to it. You watch one video and draw a conclustion. I stated that there are many videos. Yet you keep reffering to that one video. I have sent that link to may people i know and they have gone through as many as 20 others. If you are unwilling to click on the other videos which are conveniently right there, that is not my problem. You do however take that lazy act and claim that its too much of a bother for you and that I have to do it for you. Not my problem. By the way, I never stated that my whole argument was based on this one link. Thats your saying, not mine.

Alright, I did manage to click on those other videos earlier today, and I would like to reiterate my point with that one initial videos with these videos as well:

What parts specifically about any of those videos do you deem insightful in the same manner as the original video you posted? Be specific in your answer as well.

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I yearn to shout,
and dance about,
and stick pickles in my honker...

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Originally posted by TheDemon Lets recap! I presented a link to a video with a comment stating that there are MANY VIDEOS with insightful views. I did not state that this specific video is the only one. There is a link to see other videos, where, Like right next to it. You watch one video and draw a conclustion. I stated that there are many videos. Yet you keep reffering to that one video. I have sent that link to may people i know and they have gone through as many as 20 others. If you are unwilling to click on the other videos which are conveniently right there, that is not my problem. You do however take that lazy act and claim that its too much of a bother for you and that I have to do it for you. Not my problem. By the way, I never stated that my whole argument was based on this one link. Thats your saying, not mine.

Why would you post such a shitty one as the first one if it wasn't the best? That's not a very good debating/arguing tactic.

And you keep calling us lazy for not looking. The point of debate is to SHOW why you're right, not just open the doorway for others to explore as they wish.

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Originally posted by TheDemon Oh and we are to presume that everything you say is fair and justified.

At least I back up what I say with facts.

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"Go back to bed america your government is in control
Here's American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it,
Watch these picturary retards bang their fuckin' skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom,
Here you go America you are free to do as we tell you
We want your soul
Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul

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Originally posted by TheDemon Oh and we are to presume that everything you say is fair and justified. on the one hand you state that you are well known for your libertal approach, yet you call me a child. you claim it was justified because you read some of my posts, that is prejudice. Just because some people on these boards know you doesn't mean that you have immunity in what you say.

Prejudice = Pre Judging, which is obviously not what I've done with your posts if I'd read some of your posts. Learn definitions before using words.

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"Go back to bed america your government is in control
Here's American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it,
Watch these picturary retards bang their fuckin' skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom,
Here you go America you are free to do as we tell you
We want your soul
Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul

has thedemon become PDD's latest sacrificial lamb? seriously, how can you be so passionate about something yet not even begin to understand what other people are saying? i might be wrong in here a lot but shit, at least i know it!

the vid reminds me of empire strikes back, when theyre torturing han.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Prejudice = Pre Judging, which is obviously not what I've done with your posts if I'd read some of your posts. Learn definitions before using words.

I don't get it. I've stated that you pre-judged me and you're stating that I need to know the definition. I know what it means. Why else would I call you prejudice. Plus, now you state that you haven't read my post. So you are prejudice.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Why would you post such a shitty one as the first one if it wasn't the best? That's not a very good debating/arguing tactic. And you keep calling us lazy for not looking. The point of debate is to SHOW why you're right, not just open the doorway for others to explore as they wish. At least I back up what I say with facts.

Can you stop complaining?

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Originally posted by TheDemon I don't get it. I've stated that you pre-judged me and you're stating that I need to know the definition. I know what it means. Why else would I call you prejudice.

How did I pre-judge you? I had no idea you existed before you started posting in here. All of my statements came in reaction to what you posted, therefore they're not prejudiced.

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"Go back to bed america your government is in control
Here's American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it,
Watch these picturary retards bang their fuckin' skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom,
Here you go America you are free to do as we tell you
We want your soul
Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul