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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Looks like the fact that I played with the joke for the purpose of laughing at your expense made you jealous.

Now answer my questions Shallow_Z.

Shut the fuck up already you obsessive little prick. Go suck your own dick or something.


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Capitalizt
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: USA

just a pic I thought I'd insert into this gay discussion...a friend of Jake's maybe?

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metalgearsolid
I am a sexist



Registered: Apr 2005
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A friend of Jake maybe?

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HardTranceProd
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Washington DC

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt
just a pic I thought I'd insert into this gay discussion...a friend of Jake's maybe?



As far as I'm aware, anal penetration is actually something done only by a significant minority of homosexuals, like 10%.

That is certainly not their main sexual activity

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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

LOL @ both pictures.
quote:
Originally posted by HardTranceProd
As far as I'm aware, anal penetration is actually something done only by a significant minority of homosexuals, like 10%.

That is certainly not their main sexual activity

Where in the world did you come up with that? Don't forget the anemas and laxatives, meth, and coke. That's pretty common in "gay culture," and I know some really henodistic bis, straight, and gay people. I just don't hang out with them at their grose orgie parties. Not to say that all gay people are sex crazed orgy goers, but just pointing that out. Don't forget where I live now, Austin, and where I used to live, the San Francisco Bay Area.


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Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
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Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Go suck your own dick or something.


how derogatory is that, really?

it's like saying, "Have a nice day."

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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
how derogatory is that, really?

it's like saying, "Have a nice day."

He wasn't exactly friendly or polite through out this whole thread.


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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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metalgearsolid
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Registered: Apr 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by HardTranceProd
As far as I'm aware, anal penetration is actually something done only by a significant minority of homosexuals, like 10%.

That is certainly not their main sexual activity

Do you talk with anybody in the outside world? Do you? B/c gays have a lot of anal sex. Stop reading so much from the internet and make some friends in the real world.

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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
Please answer each question with a "YES", "NO", or "OTHER" and support each answer if you wish. Regardless, you MUST type in "YES", "NO", or "OTHER." Please answer EVERY question. Also, please don't argue semantics or relevance. If you do not understand the question in and of itself, please tell me.

1. Overall, do you support what Ron Paul did below? If you support some but not all of what he did, please explain WHY.



2. If Ron Paul were to do all of the above, but were to replace each word "gay" with "Muslim," would you support his decision?

3. Do you think that gay people are entitled to every equal right that you as a heterosexual Muslim have?

3a. Do you think gay people should have the right to get married? If not, do you think they are entitled to an alternative, but equal status (i.e. civil unions)?

3b. Do you think that gay people should be allowed to serve openly gay in the military.

3c. Do you think that on top of gender, creed, race, ethnicity (and others I'm forgetting), the gov't should add "sexual orientation" to the list of what NOT to discriminate against in the work place?

3d. If someone is physically attacked based solely on the fact that they are gay, do you consider it a hate crime? If not, do you consider any attack based on race/ethnity a hate crime?

3e. Do you think people should be denied the right to adopt based on their sexual orientation?

4. If I were to have my way and gay people would magically be granted all equal rights, would we be arguing in this thread?

5. (Open question, you don't have to answer yes-no-other here)
Whose fault do you think it is that gay people don't have equal rights? Gay people (like me)? Republicans (like Ron Paul)? Or other?
[/b]

Here you go, and hopefully you'll get off my case.


  1. KushPaintings already explained his (i.e. Ron Paul's) traditional conservative views of limited goverment in the other thread earlier so that's not why Ron Paul took those stances.
  2. It would be unconstitutional so he wouldn't do it in the first place. But let's break each case down.
  3. a) Yes. b) Yes. c) Yes. d) Other. Yes it is done out of hate, but I don't consider it to be a "hate crime" since I don't believe we need BS "hate" legislation of any type, for any group. We already have laws dealing with violent crime. Those are more than enough. I already linked another thread earlier in this one about that topic. e) Yes. I don't consider a same sex household to be a fair or healthy enviorment for a child to grow up in. It's natural for a child to have a male (father) and female (mother) perspective.
  4. I wasn't arguing in the first place, you were the one obsessing over my personal views on homosexuality which had nothing to do with the thread or my reasons for supporting Ron Paul.
  5. Who's fault? I assume that would have to be others.

I don't really have an issue with anything other than adoption, and ofcourse being hit on, espeically when it's clear that I'm straight.


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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

quote:
Originally posted by metalgearsolid
Do you talk with anybody in the outside world? Do you? B/c gays have a lot of anal sex. Stop reading so much from the internet and make some friends in the real world.


This thread is really slowly unravelling into what appears to be a gay-bashing session, as well as a name-calling flame war. I doubt Lira or any other mod would approve of that kind of bigotry, so perhaps it would be best to either stick to the topic at hand with candidates and their issues a bit more.

And just to be clear, the sources I found regarding the propensity of anal sex in gay relationships is about 2/3 of the time:

quote:
Perhaps as many as a third of gay men choose not to practise penetrative anal sex on a regular basis,1 and the traditional division of gay men into “active” and “passive” is not born out by experience—most gay men who do have anal sex will play either role.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/ar...i?artid=1114912


I also tend to caution some individuals about their gay-bashing tendencies (some but not all folks here):

quote:
A study that appears to reveal a major cause of homophobia was completed at the University of Georgia in 1996. 3 It involved 64 white men, none of whom had engaged in homosexual acts during their lifetime. Their sexual fantasies involved only women. 35 of them were rated homophobic; 29 non-homophobic. For the purpose of this study, "homophobia" was defined as a negative emotional reaction (e.g., fear, anxiety, anger, discomfort) to homosexuality. It was measured by a questionnaire called the Index of Homophobia. Each was shown three types of X rated videotapes: heterosexual, lesbian and gay. A plethysmograph measuring device (affectionately called a "peter meter") measured the circumference of their penis as a gauge of sexual arousal.

The two groups exhibited similar arousal when they viewed 4 minute samples taken from one heterosexual and one lesbian movie. But they responded differently to the male homosexual clip:

I. Degree of Tumescence:

a. Insignificant-

Homophobic Men - 20%
Non-homophobic Men - 66%

b. Moderate-

Homophobic Men - 26%
Non-homophobic Men - 10%

c. Definite-

Homophobic Men - 54%
Non-homophobic Men - 24%


The researchers concluded that these data are consistent with the belief that most homophobic men have repressed homosexual desires. An alternate, but much less likely, explanation is that the homophobic men's erections were caused by anxiety during the experiment.

Further research is needed to clarify the results and to answer questions such as whether these results would generalize to homophobic women.

Source: Cox News Service, 1996-JUL-31 reviewing an article by Drs. Henry Adams, Lester Wright Jr. & Bethany Lohr "Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal?", Journal of Abnormal Psychology, 105 (1996), P. 440-445


So perhaps a bit of self-reflection is needed before making any future homophobic remarks, folks?


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Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

Thanks Opus

ok can we stop this now please?

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metalgearsolid
I am a sexist



Registered: Apr 2005
Location: For you neo/

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
This thread is really slowly unravelling into what appears to be a gay-bashing session, as well as a name-calling flame war. I doubt Lira or any other mod would approve of that kind of bigotry, so perhaps it would be best to either stick to the topic at hand with candidates and their issues a bit more.


Why always with the quotes? Let me guess you too are the one that pms the mods whenever you feel hurt?

Anyways studies don't prove anything.

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