I sincerely still don't see why, even if true, integration is such a problem. It has worked well for Europe, China is planning its own little economic union with SE Asian countries. The fact is, the world will keep going towards integration. If the US chooses to stay out of any of the blocks it will simply lose the economic benefits one can derive from such unions. At the end of things, the US will be the one to suffer. Don't thing the good times that are being enjoyed now will last forever. Things that don't evolve die my friend.
Orbax
At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome
Oct-26-2007 07:31
Trancer-X
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quote:
Originally posted by venomX
I sincerely still don't see why, even if true, integration is such a problem. It has worked well for Europe, China is planning its own little economic union with SE Asian countries. The fact is, the world will keep going towards integration. If the US chooses to stay out of any of the blocks it will simply lose the economic benefits one can derive from such unions. At the end of things, the US will be the one to suffer. Don't thing the good times that are being enjoyed now will last forever. Things that don't evolve die my friend.
That's because you're apparently only looking at the issue superficially.
The ramifications of destroying our national sovereignty run much deeper than those in power would ever want to have to debate, hence the reason why they're trying to accomplish much of this under a cloak of secrecy.
And it's hardly what I'd call evolution. To me it appears to be more along the lines of an ill-considered form of crony capitalism which could easily slide into fascism and/or complete totalitarianism, an idea which I do in fact wish would die.
Is it possible Barack and Michelle are like ships passing in the night? Is it possible Michelle does not talk to her husband about the Council on Foreign Relations? Michelle Obama is on the board of directors of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, founded in 1922 as the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations. And yet here is Obama in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, telling people he is clueless about the elite organization. "I don’t know if I’m an official member. I’ve spoken there before. It basically is a forum where people talk about foreign policy. There is no official membership.
"I don’t have a card, or you know a special handshake or anything like that," Raw Story reports.
Ha ha, Obama makes funny. But while he claims to be clueless about the CFR, even though his wife heavily involved in the globalist organization, Obama cannot deny the fact one of his key advisers is at the very epicenter of the CFR — Zbigniew Brzezinski. Chase Manhattan godfather David Rockefeller set Brzezinski up as the Trilateral Commission’s first executive director from its inception in 1973 until late 1976 when he was appointed by President Jimmy Carter as Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In order to understand what Brzezinski, and thus Obama, have in mind for us, it is important to read Brzezinski.
"The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society," writes Brzezinski. "Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities.
It’s rather amusing to hear Zbigniew diss the Bush neocons. But when the rubber meets pavement there is little difference, all are on a CFR schedule. "The interests behind the Bush Administration, such as the CFR, The Trilateral Commission — founded by Brzezinski for David Rockefeller — and the Bilderberger Group, have prepared for and are now moving to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting against terrorists. "They are fighting against citizens," says Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, Ph.D. a former German defense ministry official and advisor to former NATO Secretary General Manfred Werner.
"In 1983/4 I warned of a take-over of world governments being orchestrated by these people," explains Koeppl. "There was an obvious plan to subvert true democracies and selected leaders were not being chosen based upon character but upon their loyalty to an economic system run by the elites and dedicated to preserving their power…."
All we have now are pseudo-democracies.
It looks like Obama, chosen for his "loyalty to an economic system run by the elites and dedicated to preserving their power," may have a shot at becoming the next decider-commander. He may play stupid when it comes to an impromptu question about the CFR, shrewdly turning such into a joke that makes the person who asked the question look like yet another conspiracy nut, sort of like Timothy McVeigh. It also helps to pretend to be clueless about the North American Union, as Obama would have us believe he is, acting like he has never heard the term before (see video; truly an Academy Award performance when it comes to denying knowledge of the NAU, once again making the man asking the question about it in Lancaster come off as another tinfoil hatter, probably in need of a gentle little prod with a taser, as suggested by members of the corporate media).
After addressing the conspiracy nuts, Obama told sweet little lies about NAFTA. It’s OK to diss NAFTA now because after he is "elected," Obama will do whatever the global elite tell him to do, even send the last remains of good American jobs to the China slave labor gulag and preside over the third-worldization of the once great United States, destined for extinction as its economy is dismantled. As usual, the American people will be none the wiser. "The people of the western world have been trained to be good consumers; to focus on money, sports cars, beauty, consumer goods. They have not been trained to look for character in people," writes Koeppl.
Indeed, and as the laughter in this video reveals, when Obama sarcastically mentions the secret CFR handshake, most people are either blissfully unaware of the CFR and what they have in mind for them — read the Brzezinski quote above — or they are not sufficiently trained to scoff at mention of the CFR, Trilateral Commission, and the Bilderbergers, and declare: you must be one of those black helicopter nuts.
Obama trips over North American Union, as if he has never heard of the NAU or the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, the latter directly connected to NAFTA, a topic Obama, or his handlers, believe they can exploit. But you can’t have it both ways — declaring to be against NAFTA and at the same time feigning ignorance of the NAU. It doesn’t wash.
But then maybe it does, considering the people who will vote for Obama. Not only are Americans "trained to be good consumers," they are trained to think every four years that all they have to do is throw the last set of bums out and install a new crew. Obama was selected because his only obvious experience is he can talk the talk and deflect questions about his association with the CFR. And that’s the only experience required by the New World Order.
Apr-01-2008 18:37
Trancer-X
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The NAFTA Superhighway being brought up in the House
C-Span
Apr-05-2008 07:28
Trancer-X
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The North American Union has now even been reported upon by FOX of all stations? lol
Oct-24-2008 15:35
Trancer-X
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala
quote:
"They are fighting against citizens," says Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, Ph.D. a former German defense ministry official and advisor to former NATO Secretary General Manfred Werner.
"In 1983/4 I warned of a take-over of world governments being orchestrated by these people," explains Koeppl. "There was an obvious plan to subvert true democracies and selected leaders were not being chosen based upon character but upon their loyalty to an economic system run by the elites and dedicated to preserving their power…."
Sound familiar to anyone?
quote:
Originally posted by me
I think Stan Jones said it well.
I still stand behind this guy!! Hats off to him for being bold enough and brave enough to say what he somehow successfully managed to say.
Oct-24-2008 15:47
{b.s.e.}
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Source
quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
I still stand behind this guy!! Hats off to him for being bold enough and brave enough to say what he somehow successfully managed to say.
People still aren't listening eight years later.. it's too bad. It seems no one wants to risk their cellphone that makes waffles.
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Oct-24-2008 16:57
Trancer-X
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala
quote:
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
People still aren't listening eight years later.. it's too bad. It seems no one wants to risk their cellphone that makes waffles.
People have been given a false sense of security and simply don't want to step out of their comfort zones because that would be both difficult and too much of an inconvenience. It's much easier to just dismiss everything as "conspiracy theory" especially when that's all that they've been taught.
It's all too apparent that critical thinking has become a thing of the past.
Nov-01-2008 23:44
Duncchainny
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