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regarding Victor's posts, it's true that the only change of reputation will be that of the DJs. The poll, regardless of your feelings about it, didn't change. Some people got punished for their actions within a set of guidelines that have been the same for years. Whether they're the only ones who "cheated" (and I use the term loosely, since people like Markus Schulz seem to think that you're allowed an unspecified number of illegitimate votes before you sacrifice your idyllic purity of soul) or not, they're still the only ones being singled out. If you thought the poll was a joke, it'll still be a joke, now replete with clowns. If you thought it held a great level of integrity, you'll simply decide that those DJs took advantage of the otherwise innocent process.
The poll's image stays the same, but the DJs in question are now separated, justly or not, from the crowd, either as poster boys for the overemphasis on the importance of DJMag, or as deceitful professionals who fail to live up to the the industry's standards. That's the point [I thought] Victor was trying to make. If not...well, then I don't know what he was trying to say.
| quote: | Originally posted by IndustryInsider
Dude, I read it on another board, who knows if it is true. Do you believe everything you read on here? lol |
Do you believe everything you read on other forums? lol
| quote: | Originally posted by freakster
i like chris lawrence he is a nice guy, im sorry this happened to him.
unless the poll changes the records chris plays, it doesnt matter to me. i love the music that i love. |
That's, hands down, the dumbest post I've seen in weeks.
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
Or we could abandon the whole crock of shit that is the DJ Mag poll, thus ridding ourselves of DJs and producers who lack any and all artistic merit and try to be ranked highly just for the money and fame.
Just a thought... |
better & much more feasible idea:
stop voting for good DJs. You're never going to out-yell the fanboys, so if you can't beat 'em, ditch 'em. If there was only one genre represented on there, it wouldn't be nearly as influential. It's the fact that people are still trying to fight it & getting talented people on the list, no matter how low, that's giving it credibility.
| quote: | Originally posted by the_gamemaster
O yeah, right. Why would he put that though? |
wow.
| quote: | Originally posted by Zombie0729
the reality is guys the dj mag poll does matter. i'm sorry, i understand the movement and the thought process to discredit such a stupid idea for a poll and to rank something so objective but people love it... ESPECIALLY marketing people.
imagine being the p.r. person to the #1 DJ in the world... what an easy selling point that is.
and unfortunatly everyone in the business depends on the marketability of DJ's... 'Come to Pacha this week and see the #3 DJ in the world.' |
exactly. If only Tiesto/PvD/Armintologists were voting, it wouldn't be considered to be a poll of 'the world.'
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
No one is saying the list doesn't 'matter from a purely marketing point of view (in fact I've said it in this very thread, many, many times), but it's hardly a list of the top 100 DJ's in the world, and as such, DJ Mag's being upset at CL and Dan is absolutely unwarranted, because no one other than DJ Mag can be blamed for creating a system which essentially invited exploitation.
Show of hands - how many of you actually think this is going to affect Dan and CL's careers in some profound sense for years to come?
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Again, it may not be universally acknowledged that it's a list of the top 100 DJs in the world, it would be a lot more easily disputed if it looked [even more] like a Trance.nu Class President election.
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
The culture of consumption and a productive, positive, progressive culture are at odds with one another. |
Mindless consumption, yes. Competion, no.
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveT
I think "disqualifying" DJs might be a tad brash. I mean, there are certainly instances where the DJ is probably involved, but hurting them when there's a good chance they weren't involved but their management had something to do with it.
I don't think some of these DJs would dare to a chance of being caught cheating like this knowing how much it could tarnish their image.
AS people have said, DJMag is a (stupid) marketing tool for DJs. It certainly impacts your booking fee. |
So, it's a stupid marketing tool and there's a good chance that no DJ would care enough to try & manipulate it, but he also would never do such a thing, since disqualification would cause irreparable damage to anyone's image--a fate which no one should ever have to endure, even if involved (it's just too harsh).
Did I get that right?
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So much stupidity, so little thread.
Last edited by shaw on Oct-11-2007 at 02:39
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that shit cracks me up, and it pops up in every topic about this 
