New polling is showing HRC's lead slipping and Paul making fairly substantial gain in New Hampshire. HRC is also slipping in Iowa as well, though Paul is not doing so well as Huckabee is there as of late.

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Marist poll (11/11/07)has Clinton’s lead over Obama falling from 21 percentage points to 11: Dems: Clinton 36 (drops 5), Obama 25 (gains 5), Edwards 14, Richardson 6. GOP: Romney 33 (gains 7), Giuliani 22, McCain 13, Paul 7 (gains 5), Huckabee 7, Thompson 5 (drops 5)

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holy crap I'm so wildly inconsistent with either side on that moral maze, I bet both sides would consider me a terrible person.

Ron Paul seems to have the web and all the students here on his side, but he isn't showing up in any serious comparison on any of the sources that aren't full of young people. I can't help but think, this guy is the tool that is being used this year to weaken the power of the young vote. It would be sweet for him to win, but I don't think he will, I think we will all vote for him and fail to make a difference in the election, allowing some other demographic to effectively decide who wins the election. Ron really needs to get himself attention beyond the internet and the universities and become a serious option, Im pretty worried that it is just going to reduce the youth's power to choose if we all jump on his side and then he fails.

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA—Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul is gaining momentum in New Hampshire and Iowa, according to a poll released Tuesday by CBS News and the New York Times. The Texas congressman has garnered an estimated 8 percent in New Hampshire, surpassing former GOP front-runner Fred Thompson, and is now tied with John McCain in Iowa.

Polls released over the weekend by the Boston Globe in association with the University of New Hampshire Survey Center, and the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion, both confirmed Congressman Paul’s support to be higher than Thompson’s as well.

“The polls confirm what we already know: Congressman Paul is catching on in the early primary states,” said Paul campaign spokesman Jesse Benton. “His unifying message of freedom, peace, and prosperity is resonating strongly with voters in Iowa and New Hampshire, and we’re rapidly gaining support nationwide.”

The CBS-New York Times poll was conducted November 2-12. On November 5, the Ron Paul campaign brought in a record-breaking $4.2 million online, and an additional $1 million to end the week.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-re...ied-with-mccain

Tied with McCain. He is "showing up serious comparison"

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN dont argue with the yanks nutter, they know best!

It appears if Ron Paul doesn't win the Republican primary, the Democrats will win the entire presidential election. According to our PDD poll...

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Originally posted by eROs.au ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA—Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul is gaining momentum in New Hampshire and Iowa,

Don't mean to burst any bubbles or anything, but what Paul is doing in New Hampshire is surely impressive, but not nearly as much so as what Mike Huckabee is doing in Iowa. If I were a betting man, I would put money down on Huckabee winning the Republican nomination right now. Giuliani doesn't stand a chance if he finishes third in Iowa and third in New Hampshire - no candidate has ever placed third or lower in those two states and still won the nomination.


EDIT: Take a look at Huckabee's numbers in Iowa. The most recent poll released this week has him only two points behind the leader, Romney. Nobody in the Republican Party actually likes Giuliani or Romney - they just back them because they believe they are the candidates with the best chance of winning. But I would stake my reputation that from here on out you will see both Romney and Giuliani start slipping in the polls - Romney is still Mormon and Giuliani has been wracked by scandal as of late. If Huckabee continues to surge in Iowa, and even more so if he wins there, you will see conservative Republicans flocking to him from the current leaders in droves.

http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres08/iarep8-712.html


EDIT II: Here's a better elucidation of what I'm talking about :
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/11/_poll_huckabee_catches_romney_in_iowa.php

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Ron Paul all the way. Personal freedoms come before almost anything else. Besides, he is a closet Libertarian.

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Originally posted by Dieselboy_1206 Ron Paul all the way. Personal freedoms come before almost anything else. Besides, he is a closet Libertarian.

Actually, he ran as a Libertarian in 1988. But we all know only a Dem or Repub can make it to the Oval Office..

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Originally posted by Krypton Actually, he ran as a Libertarian in 1988. But we all know only a Dem or Repub can make it to the Oval Office..

Not according to Lou "I hate brown people" Dobbs:

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Dobbs Is Advertising for Himself By JOHN FUND November 15, 2007 3:04 p.m. Lou Dobbs for President? Don't laugh. After months of telling reporters that he "absolutely" would not consider leaving his highly-rated CNN show in which he crusades against free trade and illegal immigration, Mr. Dobbs posted a commentary on his Web site last week predicting a surprise new presidential candidate in 2008. The mystery candidate is an "independent populist . . . who understands the genius of this country lies in the hearts and minds of its people and not in the prerogatives and power of its elites." Lou Dobbs Friends of Mr. Dobbs say he is seriously contemplating a race for the first time, although it's still unlikely. They spin a scenario under which the acerbic commentator would parachute into the race if Michael Bloomberg, the New York billionaire and favorite of East Coast elites, enters the field as an independent. With Hillary Clinton continuing to score badly in polls in the categories of honesty and integrity, and with the public's many doubts about Rudy Giuliani and other GOP contenders, Mr. Bloomberg may well see an opportunity to roil the political waters by entering the race late. If so, Mr. Dobbs then sees a niche for a "fourth-party" candidate who could paint the three other contenders as completely out of touch. His playbook would be similar to that of Ross Perot in 1992, who didn't enter the presidential race until the major parties began holding their primaries but quickly shot up to 25% in many polls. Similarly, Mr. Dobbs could leverage his name ID and popularity to secure a place on 50 state ballots and generate a mountain of free publicity. "No one, seemingly, is listening to the average-but-angry voter," notes the Boston Phoenix. "So an independent populist-style candidacy could fill a huge vacuum." Mr. Dobbs, who has written best-selling books deploring the government's "war on the middle class," would be a natural fit in this campaign playing the role of the anchorman in the 1970s movie "Network," who bellowed, "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore." Mr. Dobbs himself once told me that "Q" ratings that measure the popularity of media personalities found that no other media figure was more respected across the board by Democrats, Republicans and Independents. He claimed he was striking a chord with the broad middle class that transcended ideology. I think his ratings may also have something to do with picking a couple of hot-button issues that are easily demagogued, but don't be surprised if you hear more rumors about a Dobbs candidacy. Even if he doesn't enter the race, any such discussion would serve to boost his ratings.

http://online.wsj.com/public/articl...2.html?mod=blog

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Not according to Lou "I hate brown people" Dobbs: http://online.wsj.com/public/articl...2.html?mod=blog

If he goes in Ross Perot style, he'll only be swimming against the tide. Unless there is massive defection from the Republican or Democratic, maybe both parties, he wouldn't have a chance!

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I don't think I'm throwing my vote to Ron Paul, as much as I like him, he isn't going to win. I think I'm going to vote for Huccabee or McCain... But if they think they will have a blank check to run the country like Bush, I won't hesitate to vote for a Democrat...