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BLuEOcEaN420
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Registered: May 2001
Location: in deep space

k ive only read so much of this thread and id like to comment on some things...

and i should prolly mention the fact that im neither an US citizen nor resident..

quote:
From what I've seen on TV, in movies, on these boards and stories I've heard I got the feeling I didn't like US citizens much, mainly because of the superiority complex many of them seem to have......thenagain....how could I judge a country with over 250 billion ppl to be all the same? It's not like all Dutch smoke weed or refuse to treat other ppl every now and then


thats exactly why alot of the americans feel resentment. beacause people assume things about them from what they hear on TV and etc and the media tends to depict what they think well respesents their point or catches viewers attention.

quote:
In response to your post: I think it's easier for us to find defectives in the American System (way of life) because we see American things around us EVERYWHERE....however...how can you say such ignorant things about Europe if you don't even know what Europe is...where it is....what it is about..etc.....ask US citizen where Holland is....and 9 out 0f 10 think it's a city in Massachusets ight?


okay.. maybe its true that some americans arent too aware of exisisting countries in europes, but isnt it safe to say that majority people making these assumptons of the us are actually the same Europeans that have never stepped a foot on us soil? and rely on the information supplied by the media?

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Since the September 11th attacks, I've actually begun feeling even more anti-american. Probably because of the way Bush handled it all...


you do realize that not all americans agreed on the decisions made by Bush. and often the common peoples' voices are never heard.

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I've been to America 2 times, great country, nice people nothing wrong with it, but when I hear you say that America is the best country in the world, the most powerfull nation in the world and all that other nonsense.. just makes me sick


maybe you should trust your own perceptions than what you have heard?
you do realize that what you are getting hearing and seeing are information given my the media in your own country? this has nothing to do with the dutch media but, media in general tends to be bias....


if these replies are oudated im sorry. i havent had the time to catch up to the rest of the thread just yet... but these few posts were that one that i found disturbing and questions the hostil feelings by the americans on this board... likei mentioned, im neither american nor do i live there. but i dont understand why they are starting to act up against all the US basing. not cuz they are wrong or feel superior over other countries and people. but b/c they want to correct the false image that people, who have minimal clues as to wut the real americans are like, have.

hell i dont think the US is perfect and can name many of their flaws but i do think all this US bashing is truely childish.

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FuzzyGreen
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Bay Area, Ca USA

quote:
Originally posted by Vitryss
the US did NOT save Europe in WW2, Russia did, which you would know if you read your history.


What an ignorant statement!

Who's history are you reading? If it wasn't for the lend lease act, the millions of tanks, food, supplies sent to Russia (who never paid us back) and Brittan (who did pay us back) from the US, Europe would be under Nazi control.

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UWM
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Here

** Note - Please do not group me with Orbax. I do not share the same arrogant, condescending attitude he does (and I am fairly certain the vast majority of the USTA's dont) **

Some of these comments are ignorant, but some of them are very valid, intelligent comments. Yes, Americans in general are very insecure about ourselves and can take things way too seriously. Granted, being bashed can be annoying, but it's usually all in jest (although whoever said that American gun laws make us lazy .. and any September 11th comments are entirely out of line) I admit that George Dubya Bush is not the most intelligent man in the world *thick sarcasm*, and that he practices faulty foreign policy. I admit that our country can tend to have an arrogant attitude, and whoever commented on the rich kid in school getting beat up and picked on the most - props to you, good analogy.

Granted, I love living here, and am not bashing the United States. I just understand the views of other people and can take it with a grain of salt.

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JM
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Seattle, USA

what a thread....shit....

i dont really care anymore....yeah...USA gets shitted on, when we defend ourselves, people call us rude, jerks, agressive....

whatever...i'm not even gonna start talking about the "socialist" style system that still dominates in many of European countries......****yeah!!! make everyone as equal as we can yeah!!!! govermnet subsidies galore so we can compete with Japan and USA yeah!!!!****



in my view, socialism is as close as it gets to Communism these days

late/

>JM<

heh..i went overboard

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Miss Proximus
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Registered: Mar 2001
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Re: Re: Re: CAN we STOP the AMERICAN BASHING !!!!!!!!!!

quote:
Originally posted by butterfly
Finally, a comment from a couple pages ago claimed Europe produces better music - I have to agree that you have produced some superbly superior DJs to this country and most of our pop music is absolute crap and an embarrasment to this country.

Maybe that is a more relevant thing to discuss considering the forum we are on?


yayayayay!! I KNEW I had something to contribute


quote:
Originally posted by Juricimo

in my view, socialism is as close as it gets to Communism these days



What's wrong with Communism?


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Dj O'Callaghan
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Northampton UK



Thats what I think, why fucking whine it makes people hate you ten times more for fuck sake.

I have a weird view on America and that is 50% of you lot are fine and cool to get along with, and the other 50% are a group of shitbag mother ******s who think them and only them exist on this planet.

Yes we are all proud of where we're from, but the 'I'm the best' 'we're so fucking great rah rah rah rah rah' gets on my fucking nerves and the majority of Europeans nerves too.

I think if I asked about 50% of Americans who was in World War 2 they'd probably say just the USA, Germany, and Japan. For the fact they can't stand any other country having joint glory of something, its the we're the only country in the world attitude that pisses us off so much.

I agree on what people say, Americans will never get Brit humour never.

Also question whats the deal with your hertige? I'm 1.566575984 % German 0.5686969696% Italian, 2.844764% French, 1.447589474% Mongolian is what I here Americans say often, I don't see loads of you being proud of your hertige, apart from certain holidays oh my great great great great great great great great great great Grandfathers dog was brought off some Irish builders, that makes me such and such. Do you think it intrests us?, it can be quite intresting cos your lots heads get fucked up 'oh oh what shall pick my hertige or some country my family moved to'. On St Pats day theres probably a couple of you with Irish parents or grandparents did I see Irish tricolours no I SAW FUCK ALL! just the usually tricolours of us Irish, shows being proud of European hertiges don't it.


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torontotrance
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto
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Personally i can bash canadians (since i'm one) and since i'm also half american......i can bash the americans. I hold dual citizenship...canadian born with an american mother. So ima continue to bash americans and canadians (just not around my mother).....so i cannot be stopped.

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jp
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Holland

quote:
#1 Americans work longer than anyone else in the world and have less vacation time. Im not talking about 5th world non existant countries with 15 hour a day child labor. im talking civilization.

#2 We have no public transportation becaue GM, Firestone, Chrysler, and some petroleum companies used front companies to buy up all the rails and busses in america. They then dismantled them. They had entire cities public transportation gone in sometimes ONE NIGHT. They did this so Americans HAD to rely on personal transport so the car, tire, and gas companies could reap the benefits.



1# Japanese work much harder and longer
2# Try a bike like we use in Holland

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FuzzyGreen
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Bay Area, Ca USA
Re: Re: Re: Re: CAN we STOP the AMERICAN BASHING !!!!!!!!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Proximus


What's wrong with Communism?


Nothing, in it's idealistic form, but in reality (due to human nature) it doesn't work.

Examples include human's natural emotions of jealousy, personal acheivement, growth, and the simple fact that no two people are the same.

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JM
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Seattle, USA
Re: Re: Re: Re: CAN we STOP the AMERICAN BASHING !!!!!!!!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Proximus

What's wrong with Communism?


China???? Old Skool RUssia???? Cuba????
heh....lets take a look at how those countries are doing today.

>JM<

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JM
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Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Seattle, USA

quote:
Originally posted by jploveparade


1# Japanese work much harder and longer
2# Try a bike like we use in Holland



1# maybe longer on average..not sure about harder.
2# haha..yeah i heard about that too...must be expensive to drive heh??

>JM<

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Yoepus
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Ketchup fields, Texas

quote:
Originally posted by jploveparade
1# Japanese work much harder and longer



How do Japanese work harder? When their work gets intensly hard, they just jump of a building... I don't see how that makes them work longer.

Oh wait a second, Americans do that too.. nevermind.

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